[identity profile] trf-chan.livejournal.com
Annnnnd the results for this month's quote challenge (counting what may or may not have been incomplete guessing in some cases? XD;):

1st place: [livejournal.com profile] jonahmama
2nd place: [livejournal.com profile] sibylla_oo
3rd place: Tie, [livejournal.com profile] estellacat and [livejournal.com profile] citoyenneclark

Congratulations, all!

The answers, omg spoiler alert D: )

[livejournal.com profile] jonahmama, I'll be sending you a message about what next month's discussion point will be, along with guidelines and suggestions for the accompanying quote challenge.
[identity profile] maelicia.livejournal.com
Sooo before the Month of the CSP is over, I intend of making a series of posts on the CSP, based on stuff I already posted in my journal on ~~Random Facts Collected on the Committee of Public Safety~~. Because I think it could be shared to make it ~a pretty, fun and educative series~!

Now, before I find some time to actually fix these posts, have two macros -- same pic, different text -- from Saint-Just's POV in La Terreur et la vertu because it seems to have gone unnoticed on my LJ a little while ago and it deserves comments okay coz it's brillant rly:






In case you're unfamiliar with the actors of LTELV, from left to right: Billaud, Collot (mostly hidden by Billaud), Lindet, Carnot, Saint-Just.


Doesn't this make the Thermidor crisis more cheerful? It's not like, you know, he's going to die two days later and they're going to cover his decapitated body with quicklime? Lol?
[identity profile] trf-chan.livejournal.com
Hello, all!

A while back, [livejournal.com profile] estellacat suggested that we have a monthly quote challenge, either posting one and having people guess the author, or posting several and having people match them up. So...that's what we're going to do!

The first challenge, tying into our monthly discussion point, involves quotes by members of the Committee of Public Safety. You will notice that there are only nine quotes, meaning that there are three members whose names you will not use. But telling you who they are would be far too easy, so you'll just have to discern for yourself!


You will have until March 27th to respond to this post with your guesses. Comments will be screened until that time. The winner will be the first to get the greatest number of answers correct and will also be in charge of the quote challenge for next month (and I'll run the monthly discussion point by that person first just to be sure they don't have any concerns about the feasibility of finding quotes related to it).

The only real rule, and this is a BIG rule, is no Googling. Googling would...well, it would make the whole thing fairly pointless. You are, however, able to scour any printed sources at your disposal for the quotes, as it involves a much larger amount of blood, sweat, and tears than just copying and pasting every quote into Google. :P

So without further ado...the quotes! )
[identity profile] trf-chan.livejournal.com
Bringing these back seemed to be a popular enough idea!

This month's discussion point is the Committee of Public Safety.

Discuss the Committee's responsibilities, how those responsibilities tended to be divided up among its members, power dynamics of the Committee, the policies/actions attributed to the Committee, and, well, anything else you can think of that's related to it!
[identity profile] misatheredpanda.livejournal.com


Sign found in Chambéry. I've been meaning to ask, does anyone know what this is referring to? I admittedly haven't looked into it very thoroughly, but what I've found hasn't much gone beyond the fact that Hérault was indeed in Chambéry (and that he was responsible for the lovely plaque outside Les Charmettes). Just curious, and especially would like to know what it was that warranted placing this sign. If anyone might be able to point me in the right direction - thanks!

Edit. I'm really confused about the whole tagging system - I know, I need to get with it - but somehow managed to add this tag. Granted the post is relevant to the Committee of Public Safety but it seems like it would be even more convenient to add "hérault de séchelles" and "chambéry" or "missions" as tags, say. :( Please help me in my fastidiousness, Citoyenne [livejournal.com profile] trf_chan.
[identity profile] victoriavandal.livejournal.com
I heard a reference to the Committee of Public Safety's drinks bill on a radio programme a couple of years ago, but I've never come across a written reference to it. Does such a thing exist, or was it a post-Thermidor 'hey, don't blame us, we were drunk all the time' excuse? I've also heard similar about the Tribunal, but again haven't found a reliable, non-anecdotal, non-hostile source.
I'm also aware that the average alcohol intake was universally far higher from the dawn of time until the 19thc - it was safer than water!
On a related issue, does anyone know if the opiate laudanum was used/abused in France as much as it was in Britain at the time? I don't know how greatly the trade links would have made a difference here. I can't remember ever having come across a reference in anything on the Revolution - the Romantic poets in Britain in the 1790's were living on the stuff - but I did wonder if that, rather than the usually assumed bisexuality, may have been Camille Desmoulins' 'vice'?
[identity profile] chip-squidley.livejournal.com
For a long time I was only able to read about the Revolution in English....so I never really thought anything of the translation of "Comite de Salut Public" as "Committee of Public Safety"

But as I taught myself to read French I became aware that the word "Salut" could also mean "Salvation". So I find myself wondering if "Committee of Public Salvation" would be a better translation...more in keeping with the intent of its mission.
[identity profile] wolfshadow713.livejournal.com
I know that there aren't any official minutes of the March 30 joint meeting of the Committees (or any meeting, really), but there are at least partial accounts of what transpired. Does anyone know of a relatively complete account, either from some primary source document (ie. someone's memoirs) or something pieced together by historians)?
[identity profile] fatimahcrossin.livejournal.com

Following the example of

[profile] estellacatwho made a birthday post for Prieur De La Marne, I have decided to open a serie of posts each one of them dedicated to discuss a revolutionary chosen among the less known (and loved) ones.

 

 I know many of you will be maybe disappointed with it, neverthless I want to begin this work with a post dedicated to Billaud-Varenne who remains, despite my strong passion for Saint-Just and sympathy for Robespierre, one of my most beloved revolutionaries (-> I know you may find it strange - but this is unrational, so just take it as it comes !).


I don't put here his biography since I believe most of you know it (and if not, you can just have a look anywhere on the web), but I'd like to underline some stereotypes about his figure which doesn't appear so simple and one-faced as many treat it.

Comics

May. 14th, 2008 05:50 pm
[identity profile] nirejseki.livejournal.com
Hello! I've been lurking at this community for...not terribly long, actually, mostly because I don't really do the whole "community" thing that much. But it just occurred to me that I draw a lot of French Revolution-related comics and that I probably ought to post them here to see if anyone is amused by them.

These are all fake cuts back to my journal, not LJ cuts.

The Lies and Slanders Regularly Attributed to one Maximilien Robespierre

The Lies and Slanders Regularly Attributed to one Antoine Saint-Just

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Chibis of the Committee of Public Safety: A Field Guide

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Crack!Art & Comic: Hell is for Committees


I also have some other drawings, but those are the ones most associated with the French Revolution. I hope everyone is at least a little amused. ^^
[identity profile] maelicia.livejournal.com
A friend, [livejournal.com profile] nirejseki, asked for the portraits of the members of the Committee of Public Safety for a drawing she's planning. I was working on a reply for her with all the links, but since I happened to (a first!) find all of their potraits, I'm going to post it, because it's memorable. I already posted it on my LJ, but I thought posting it here would be useful too. Naturally, I suppose you could do the research by yourself, since they can all be found on the French Wikipedia, by clicking on their names here: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comit%C3%A9_de_salut_public#Le_.C2.AB_Grand_Comit.C3.A9_de_salut_public_.C2.BB

Some articles were updated with new portraits (like the ones of Billaud-Varenne and Hérault de Séchelles).

Some of those portraits sort of frighten me, because suddenly, for once... those men look so real, a level of realism the simple engraving doesn't really have. They stop being just names I stumble on when reading.

So, minus the three robespierristes we already know quite well enough (well, unless you want their portraits too...? might get tough to settle for just one portrait for at least two of them, no? -_-):

The Nine Other Members of the Committee of Public Safety: less known, less glamour, less cared about or hated Thermidorians. Depending on your point of view. All right, the evil and biased robespierriste I am shuts up now. )

Just in case that interests anyone, I amused myself with statistics. Here are how old the members of the CSP were in 1794 (which also happened to be the final age reached for four members in there -- let's not come back on this):

Lindet: 48.
Collot: 45.
Saint-André: 45.
Carnot: 41.
Barère: 39.
Couthon: 39 (would have been).
Prieur de la Marne: 38.
Billaud: 38.
Robespierre: 36.
Hérault: 35 (would have been).
Prieur de la Côte d'Or: 31.
Saint-Just: 27 (would have been).


Which gives the CSP the average age of: 38,5 years old. Hm, I don't know if that's young or not for an "executive". I'm pretty sure it's younger than most executives we have in western countries right now though... Okay, so it's Saint-Just's fault: he considerably brings down the whole average. :P
[identity profile] vulpea-rea.livejournal.com
Okay, so, since cafepress won't let me add more than one type of product to my shop, I've generated more shops for more stuff.

Now you too can show off your Committee allegiance, guaranteed to make heads turn 360 degrees! http://www.cafepress.com/comite

And this, for that flagrant Robesperrist in you! http://www.cafepress.com/robespierre

I should add more shirt options, if anyone wants a different kind, say so. And I hope I'm not being obnoxious, but I should've thought of this sooner, it's piles of fun!

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