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Maximilien Robespierre’s address was “rue des Cordeliers , passage du Commerce ” .
Augustin Robespierre’s address was “rue Saint-Honoré, No. 366 ” .
Maybe, These things found in the rue Saint-Honoré were not Maximilien’s ?
Maybe, Maximilien Robespierre was not familiar with the Duplays? Augustin was familiar with the Duplays?
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Date: 2011-05-03 04:47 pm (UTC)The assassins did not see Maximilien in the rue Saint-Honoré in May 1794 .
Maybe Maximilien often went to the rue Saint-Honoré to see his brother.
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Date: 2011-05-03 05:26 pm (UTC)1: if the thermidorians were so coordinated, so disciplined, so efficient as to be able to control what all of them put in their private memoirs (both then and decades later), what they put into the decentralized press, what non-Thermidorian commentators said, what third parties (including enemy and Austrian/British parties, not to mention "wow I was just passing by on holiday!" parties) ALL SAID...then I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have mostly been killed or kicked out and then helped create the Directory of all things. I mean, seriously. The Directory.
2. Yes, because they knocked at the door and politey asked the person at the door where the tyrant was so that she could assassinate him. The correct response to that is "slam door, call for help". I suspect that that was, in fact, the response. The response is NOT "ask Maxime to come downstairs so the assassins can see him before we slam the door, call for help, get them arrested, and try and execute them for attempted murder".
3. Given that his brother was often out of town or even without that fact, that would be a creepy amount of visiting if everyone thinks you live there.
4. You're really taking a lot from one document, aren't you?
5. TROOOOOOOOLL! TROOOOLL IN THE DUNGEONS! (but at least you're amusing!)
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Date: 2011-05-05 02:03 pm (UTC)"Cornélie" did not say anything.
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Date: 2011-05-03 06:24 pm (UTC)1º Did the Termidorians confiscated the rue des Cordeliers?
I haven't seen any document about that.
2º Charlotte was complaining of the Duplays because they "stole" (in her point of view) her Maximilien, or her Augustin?
Reread her memories. Charlotte was complaining of the Duplays because they stole her Maximilien, and of madame Ricord because she stole her Augustin.
3º The trope of historians who interviewed Élisabeth Le Bas after the Revolution said that Robespierre lived in the rue des Cordeliers?
Lamartine says Maximilien lived in the rue Saint-Honoré. Esquiros says Maximilien lived in the rue Saint-Honoré. Hamel says Maximilien lived in the rue Saint-Honoré. Nobody says Maximilien lived in the rue des Cordeliers.
4º And Élisabeth, why she talks about Maximilien and not Augustin?
Reread her memories. Here, she talks about the disposition of the rooms of her house in the Rue Saint-Honoré:
A droite de la salle à manger, un salon éclairé par une croisée donnant sur le petit jardin ; à gauche du salon, un cabinet d’étude, avec un jour de souffrance donnant sur la cabane du jardinier du couvent de la Conception. Dans la salle à manger, un petit escalier en bois par où l’on montait dans les appartements ; à droite était la chambre à coucher de ma mère, éclairée par deux croisées ; à droite de la chambre, et y attenant, un petit cabinet de toilette, qu’on traversait pour entrer dans la modeste chambre de MAXIMILIEN.
Elle n’avait qu’une croisée, une cheminée ; son mobilier était le plus simple du monde : un lit de noyer ; les rideaux du lit en damas bleu à fleurs blanches, garniture provenant d’une robe de ma mère ; un très modeste bureau ; quelques chaises de paille ; il y avait aussi un casier servant de bibliothèque. Cette chambre était éclairée par une fenêtre donnant sur les hangars, en sorte que Robespierre entendait sans cesse le bruit du travail, mais sans en être troublé.
I agree with
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Date: 2011-05-05 02:17 pm (UTC)"Cornélie" did not say anything.
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Date: 2011-05-05 05:22 pm (UTC)Charlotte wrote, as yu already knws, her memories, in which she tld with many details, how bad she felt about Maximilien living at the Duplays. She was furious to see how those wmen "manipulated" his brother. She fighted too much to demonstrate that Eléonore was not Maximilien's girlfriend, and she also speaks about Elisabteh being the only one who was god among the Duplays. When she LIVED with them, it was her who always took Charlotte's side when Mme. Duplay "attacked" her, and she even would comb Charlotte's hair.
As for Augustin,he lived at Rue Saint-Florentin, I think, along with Charlotte. Please, read Charlotte's memories. She had no reason to make up all these petty details.
HanriotFran.
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Date: 2011-05-05 05:23 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-06 03:50 pm (UTC)Maybe "Charlotte's Memoirs" was not written by Maximilien's sister.
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Date: 2011-05-06 07:36 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-07 03:22 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-05 10:48 pm (UTC)Éléonore didn't say nothing, that is true. But will you reject Élisabeth's memories just for that? And will you reject all the documents because you can't accept that the one you're quoting is a mistaken one?
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Date: 2011-05-06 03:53 pm (UTC)Charlotte could not represent Maximilien Robespierre.
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Date: 2011-05-06 05:11 pm (UTC)I know people like you from other forums. They are always saying that all proofs are made up, fake, not true, etc, etc, etc...
I think I shall no loss my time discussing facts -already proven facts - with you, since you'll always answer that none of these could be proved as true. I have no communication with God, I just have some little acces to books and some documents, no more, nor less.
Only a little more data for you: Lamartine spoke with Elisabeth Duplay when she was an elderly lady, and she told him about "bon ami" Maxime. And be sure that ALL PARIS knew where Maximilien lived in. Go to Paris ARchives to search documents about l'affaire Cécile Renault, the girl who wanted to kill Robespierre.Well, she went right to Duplay's house to kill him. It is all registered in Tribunal Révolutionnaire 's archives...Go there and see.
HanriotFran.
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Date: 2011-05-07 03:18 pm (UTC)But they did not see Robespierre in Duplay's house.
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Date: 2011-05-06 07:29 pm (UTC)I don't have to spend my time with a troll.
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Date: 2011-05-07 05:07 pm (UTC)What proof this Hoald needs to convince himself/herself that Robespierre INDEED lived in Rue Saint-Honoré? If I write that Mlle. Rebault saw Robespierre in Duplay's house, this person would answer that he was there visiting and not living with this family...Ohhhhhh myyyyyyy!!!!! Heeeeeellllppppp!!!
HanriotFran.