And don't hesitate to rant about PoGS around me. I've done enough ranting about it (and especially its portrayal of the Duplays, Le Bas, and Saint-Just) myself not to mind when other people do.
Well, you asked for it. I was given it for Christmas but only made it up to the scene where Babet molests Camille before I threw the book at the wall with my bullshit detectors ringing at one hundred decebels. I was just thinking where possibly could be your source for that? Camille wasn't going to put it in a letter or something was he - "Dear Robespierre, would love to call round more but your girlfriend's little sister keeps raping me. Lucile and Horace say hello, see you at the Jacobins." - it's just ridiculous.
So I missed out on whatever horrors she has inflicted on St Just. It was actually my feminist/queer principles it annoyed. OMG! Infectious!Gay!Lawyers seducing poor w00bie Camille - as if spending his adolescence in an all boys school learning about the Ancient Greeks wouldn't have given him a bit of a clue that he might enjoy the view from both sides of the church.
But you know, yesterday, I went back as all my friends had been raving about Wolf Hall and well yes, I do have my political dials turned up a little too high sometimes, so I gave it another shot and I read the last chapter and a half. I just remember thinking, she's not really going to go there is she, she's not really going to, yes, she is going to rip up the floorboards and crawl under them in an effort to really go that low.
Why do people always have to look for some woman to blame? It's as if Mantel couldn't stand the fact her sweet little "Max" signed death warrants. It's the way she has to remove agency from her main characters to fit a model of them that she likes. Camille has to be seduced into being gay, Robespierre has to be duped into sending Danton to the tribunal. I just wanted to scream, look make him the Godlike ultimate democrat willing to make any sacrifice for the Revolution , make him a cynical pragmatist who wiped out political enemies for his own gain, make him a bright green blood sucking vampire for all I care but please make him responsible for his actions.
Please don't look for some woman and blame her.
I think the fact that Babet turned out to be sweet, clever, brave and articulate in her memoirs just makes the whole deal even more disgusting.
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Well, you asked for it. I was given it for Christmas but only made it up to the scene where Babet molests Camille before I threw the book at the wall with my bullshit detectors ringing at one hundred decebels. I was just thinking where possibly could be your source for that? Camille wasn't going to put it in a letter or something was he - "Dear Robespierre, would love to call round more but your girlfriend's little sister keeps raping me. Lucile and Horace say hello, see you at the Jacobins." - it's just ridiculous.
So I missed out on whatever horrors she has inflicted on St Just. It was actually my feminist/queer principles it annoyed. OMG! Infectious!Gay!Lawyers seducing poor w00bie Camille - as if spending his adolescence in an all boys school learning about the Ancient Greeks wouldn't have given him a bit of a clue that he might enjoy the view from both sides of the church.
But you know, yesterday, I went back as all my friends had been raving about Wolf Hall and well yes, I do have my political dials turned up a little too high sometimes, so I gave it another shot and I read the last chapter and a half. I just remember thinking, she's not really going to go there is she, she's not really going to, yes, she is going to rip up the floorboards and crawl under them in an effort to really go that low.
Why do people always have to look for some woman to blame? It's as if Mantel couldn't stand the fact her sweet little "Max" signed death warrants. It's the way she has to remove agency from her main characters to fit a model of them that she likes. Camille has to be seduced into being gay, Robespierre has to be duped into sending Danton to the tribunal. I just wanted to scream, look make him the Godlike ultimate democrat willing to make any sacrifice for the Revolution , make him a cynical pragmatist who wiped out political enemies for his own gain, make him a bright green blood sucking vampire for all I care but please make him responsible for his actions.
Please don't look for some woman and blame her.
I think the fact that Babet turned out to be sweet, clever, brave and articulate in her memoirs just makes the whole deal even more disgusting.
Okay, I'll let you go now.