http://victoriavandal.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] victoriavandal.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] revolution_fr2008-07-18 11:46 am

Camus' teen goth Saint-Just...

Another query - does anyone know the source, if any, for Albert Camus' description of Saint-Just (presumably while a law student) living in a room with black walls with teardrop patterns and the shutters closed? This sounds too teen-angsty to be true, but would be wonderful if it was (reminds me of The Secret Diary of Adrian Mole, when in a fit of depression he paints his bedroom black but Noddy's bells keep showing through!). Camus mentions it in the Saint-Just chapter of 'The Rebel'.

[identity profile] maelicia.livejournal.com 2008-07-18 03:40 pm (UTC)(link)
It's in Michelet -- though I have no idea where he took it. I have it somewhere on my LJ. I'll search through my (many) posts and come back to you.

[identity profile] sneerbite.livejournal.com 2008-07-18 03:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I seem to remember, for some reason, that Michelet took this claim from Charles Nodier (which would fit), but I am not entirely sure. You can check in C. Nodier, 'Souvenirs, épisodes et portraits pour servir à l'histoire de la Révolution et de l'Empire'on Gallica. But whether this description comes indeed from Nodier or from someone else, it seems highly unlikely to me. Hope this helps. : )

[identity profile] livviebway.livejournal.com 2008-07-18 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I wonder how on earth Charles Nodier would know. It's not as though Saint-Just poured out his teenage decorating secrets in the brief time they met.

...Ahhh romantic historians.

[identity profile] sneerbite.livejournal.com 2008-07-18 05:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, quite. And as I seem to recall, Nodier claimed a lot of dubious things about this meeting, if it ever indeed took place, as well. LOL. Good stuff.

As I said, I am still not sure that Nodier is the origin of this rumour, but I must defend Michelet in any case, as I am sure he did not make it up himself, but merely - perhaps rather foolishly - took it from somebody else.

[identity profile] livviebway.livejournal.com 2008-07-18 05:07 pm (UTC)(link)
*So* true.

[identity profile] sneerbite.livejournal.com 2008-07-18 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Saint-Jules is excused any day in my book, for being one of the first to conduct large-scale archival research on the French Revolution. : ) Also, he nearly bled to death writing its history - that man had nothing left at the end! LOL.

I suppose the temptation of goth was just too much in this particular case - especially in relation to Saint-Just, whom he found so very overwhelming. Smirk.

[identity profile] sneerbite.livejournal.com 2008-07-18 05:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you. As I said, I am really not sure he is the source, it's just a dim memory somewhere in my decaying brain. Could have been someone else - but Nodier, the melodramatic, is likely enough after all. Chop chop. : )