ext_311538 ([identity profile] missweirdness.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] revolution_fr2009-07-12 11:12 pm

TERROR, on YOUTUBE!

Yeah, i guess what i found on youtube?

That dreadful Terror! Robespierre and the french revolution..

here's the link -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcZxrb_L0_M

part 1 of 9, hahahah

enjoy =O
 

 and apparently the emo GUY is ST. JUST! GASP!

 
I'm watching now..=( 

now discuss!
 

 

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[identity profile] maelicia.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
The problem here isn't that this "English TV show" isn't "all completely accurate": THE PROBLEM IS THAT IT'S ENTIRELY INACCURATE ON EVERY SINGLE LEVEL AND IS A BLATANT IDEOLOGICAL MANIPULATION OF HISTORY.

By the way, if you have anything good to add up to contribute to the debate, or, I don't know, to this community at all -- who are you? -- please do so.

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[identity profile] hanriotfran.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, Maelicia. You are totally right. Totally inaccurate...But people who watchs it without previous historical studies about RF will think it is (You know...all that it's going in TV it's true). This is our nowadays drama. A totally manipulated mass media, that influences too many minds around the world. Just think that these kind of shows are shown all over our planet, by "The History Channel" and doubled to thousand of languages. I've seen it in Spanish.These kind of shows push people to think what some historians does since 1794: that Robespierre and Saint-Just were bad, without friends, cold and simple murderes with love to blood. Oh, well!!! My brain is bleeding.

HanriotFran

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(Anonymous) 2009-07-15 09:28 am (UTC)(link)
Don't let them know. This lot will snitch you up and chop your head off!

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[identity profile] momesdelacloche.livejournal.com 2009-07-15 10:18 am (UTC)(link)
Sor-RY, just because you think you own this place.

Have you ever seen, or read, -anything- about the French revolution that wasn't ideologically manipulated. That's what it's there for. Anyone who talks or writes about it does so because they have a comment to make... That's half what makes it so interesting,compared to programmes about the Tudors where they just chat about Henry VIII's wives.

And if you were ever to write a book about the Jacobins, I would be sure to take everything you say with a pinch of salt, as well.

Most people who watch these programmes aren't stupid, either. They at least have some interest in history and how history works - i.e. this isn't a completely accurate unbiased account of what happened.
What more worries me is that a lot of people don't even know who Maximilien Robespierre is, at all. But these people probably wouldn't watch this programme, because they're just not interested in it.

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[identity profile] jonahmama.livejournal.com 2009-07-16 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
Everybody has a right to an opinion on this forum, I believe. I haven't posted my comments, because I am afraid if I don't agree 100% with what's been said I will be attacked and insulted, just as you have done to this unfortunate contributor. Maelicia, there is no need to personally insult people or ask them to justify their being here. Other people have just as much right to comment here as you do, regardless of who they are. If you can't engage in civilized debate instead of attacking people on a personal level, then you haven't much of a future in academia. By the way, WHO are YOU again? Believe it or not, there are more credentialed experts on the revolution who read this forum than you are. If you want to impress them, try putting your arguments in the sort of language worthy of a professional historian, rather than that of a teenager. I do believe you are intelligent and well-educated enough to do that.

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[identity profile] maelicia.livejournal.com 2009-07-16 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, thanks for the "lesson", really, and thanks for knowing that I am "intelligent" and "well-educated".

As far as my comment "By the way, if you have anything good to add up to contribute to the debate, or, I don't know, to this community at all -- who are you? -- please do so." was concerned, it was mostly to reply to the part of the comment "But I do get the impression that you guys will hate anything that deals with your favourite guys, especially English TV shows, that aren't all COMPLETELY ACCURATE".

I maintain that I have a right to say it anyway -- as we all have rights to say whatever we want, as we all obviously know *eyerolls* -- because I firmly believe that LJ communities are kept alive by the people who dare to post and comment in them, not by mysteriously appearing people who pop in suddenly to tell said people who contribute 'you're just angry because it attacks your favourite guys boo hoo' and enlightening the part 'especially English TV shows'. Well, English TV shows do happen to be pretty bad as far as the French Revolution is concerned, for obvious ideological reasons.

And maybe you should think of sharing the comments you also have on this so that we all know what you think as well, instead of just randomly jumping in to teach lessons to others?


P.S. And it's true: I don't know who she is. I was merely stating a fact.

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[identity profile] trf-chan.livejournal.com 2009-07-16 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, this thread is just getting out of hand, so I'm putting on my rarely-used Mod Hat now and freezing replies before it degenerates any further than it already has. Frankly, I find fault with the attitudes of all three of you that I'm making this reply to. If you want to know why in further detail, feel free to get in touch with me.

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[identity profile] trf-chan.livejournal.com 2009-07-16 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, this thread is just getting out of hand, so I'm putting on my rarely-used Mod Hat now and freezing replies before it degenerates any further than it already has. Frankly, I find fault with the attitudes of all three of you that I'm making this reply to. If you want to know why in further detail, feel free to get in touch with me.