http://maelicia.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] maelicia.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] revolution_fr2010-06-06 02:21 am

Because Fr Rev Homoeroticism Isn't Just For The Guys

So I'm a bit late for preparing and posting the quotes of the month's challenge, because RL is an organisation mess right now with a trip to England to plan, yadda yadda, so meanwhile, have some nice pics.

Found these, as I was watching one part of the horrid American docu of the History Channel:





Spot the hands. Tricoteuses Can Has Les Yay? Actually, granted, the one in pink in the first doesn't look that happy... nor a tricoteuse. It might have something to do with that. I'd like to hear the backstory of that image.

So we know what is the first, but I wish I knew what was the art of the second, coz it looks great. :(


Note on the vid I took these from: Seriously, that silly historian is reducing the crowd of women who marched to Versailles as "fishladies" who were "hugely muscular". Hello buying into propaganda stereotypes. Btw, if you watch (it's at 6:45), note the two on a cannon, I love those.

Plus the loser after that with his ultra-simplification "most of them probably couldn't even write their names" and "it's quite extraordinary that these ordinary women suddenly acted as the protagonists of this historical process" -- well, duh. He needs to do some reading on the role of women in revolts. Also: literacy had progressed. They probably could write their names. That might have been the only thing they could write, but that was a start!

[identity profile] lucilla-1789.livejournal.com 2010-06-06 10:13 am (UTC)(link)
Could the backstory be that in many European cultures touching like holding hands, kissing to the cheeks etc. has no sexual implications? And that in late 18th Century being emotional and holding friendship important was "trendy" with beginning of Romanticism. There are still many countries where friends walk hand in hand.

On a symbolic level, as all the three women are standing close and have all different clothes it could mean the different social classes coming together as equals. What year is the picture from? In the beginning of revolution the common theme was all the classes working together for a better future - although later it gave way to everyone being at each others throats

[identity profile] lucilla-1789.livejournal.com 2010-06-06 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
How could I know? After all, lots of Americans seem really puzzled by European cheek kissing etc. I didn't mean to be patronising so I'm sorry, if I sounded that way.

My reaction was because I've red tons of really serious (usually feminist) history that filters everything trough contemporary culture - such as interpreting friendship from earlier centuries as being sexual. Interpreting old letters between friends as love letter etc. Of course the gay-fanfictiony-part of liking history can be fun, but in very, very small dosages...
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[identity profile] awils1.livejournal.com 2010-06-06 01:41 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG HANDS. \o/ I have a scan of dudes doing the same thing, it's very cute. I agree with [livejournal.com profile] lucilla_1789 that it is more than likely part of the thematic collection of art that focused on the image of all three Estates joining together for the common good.

Seriously, that silly historian is reducing the crowd of women who marched to Versailles as "fishladies" who were "hugely muscular".

Okay, as a wrestling fan, this makes me crack up laughing :D

On a more serious note, North Americans just can't compose a decent documentary. I do wish to know how the Bastille was 'feudal' - I see that the latest, very stringent definitions of feudalism have escaped the makers. Being incarcerated by a monarch does not fit the bill! *goes slightly crazy with annoyance*
Edited 2010-06-06 13:59 (UTC)

[identity profile] acolnahuacatl.livejournal.com 2010-06-06 03:16 pm (UTC)(link)
GODDAMN LOOK AT THOSE FIERCE BITCHES. LOOK AT THAT FIERCE BITCH ON THE LEFT IN THE SECOND PIC GODDAMN. <3

[identity profile] nirejseki.livejournal.com 2010-06-06 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Awww, how cute! XDDDD I think it's adorable. And of course there was virtuous pretty tricotese love - slash goggles don't only apply to men, after all. XD

And in regards to the debate above about whether it was symbolic or Romanticism or whatnot: who cares? If it is part of a thematic collection of the classes united, all that means is that now there must be virtous middle class revolutionary citoyenne/virtous working class revolutionary tricotese slash as well! : D! With lots of speechifying and clearly the tricotese dragging the other one to rallies and picnics and such.

[identity profile] supercrook.livejournal.com 2010-08-22 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh man, I remember this documentary. Wince.

However, I must say I love the woman in pink's hair.