ext_307725 ([identity profile] racaille.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] revolution_fr2007-07-16 11:42 am

French Revolution Game



What? "Le bleu vous va si bien" (Blue suits you so well) a live-action roleplaying (LARP) game set in 1793 Brittany. This celtic region on the west coast of France was famous for its anti-revolutionary activity, so players could play either side (historically, "blues" were the revolutionaries, "whites" the royalists).

When? A few weeks ago, near perfect timing for Bastille Day :)

Where? near Quimper, Finistère, Brittany

Who? In Nomine Ludis, a Breton LARP group



And they had a cannon!




A traditional Breton outfit. I just love the pants.











Even more pics over there



For more pictures of LARPs, checkout the [livejournal.com profile] larpix community

[identity profile] kurotoshi.livejournal.com 2007-07-16 02:06 pm (UTC)(link)
*blinks* Holy crap!

[identity profile] maelicia.livejournal.com 2007-07-16 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow. Now that looks so very great. Beautiful costumes too. *drools*

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2007-07-16 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
As awesome as that looks, one has to wonder about the people who want to play the whites... :/

[identity profile] pedrolino.livejournal.com 2007-07-17 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
Well, you've got people who want to play both sides in Civil War reenactments and such, too. Maybe they've got ancestors who they're modeling their role on?

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2007-07-17 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
I suppose... But many people still take those distinctions seriously, so that's why I would possibly suspect those who want to play the whites of really agreeing with their politics.

[identity profile] tearosefury.livejournal.com 2007-07-17 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
Oh common', don't you have at least a little pity for some good old fashioned royalists? They had cause enough in their own minds for their opinions.

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2007-07-17 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
In their own minds... being either brainwashed, selfish and self-interested, or deranged. No, I don't pity them--especially since, whatever they profess, it's well documented that they were just as ruthless and brutal to the "blues" as the blues were to them.

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2007-07-18 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
As I said, that does change the situation quite a bit. I won't deny that modern-day royalists are a bit frightening, and also a bit pathetic, especially since they can hardly plead ignorance or that the republic has harmed them in any way, like their forebears.

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2007-07-18 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
Well, if that's the case, it's another story.

As for the first of the "historical aspects": that's no excuse to foment a bloody civil war, and certainly no excuse for their descendants to call that civil war a "genocide."

For the second: "supreme being worship," as you call it, is no more "weird" than Catholicism. Not to mention the fact that "Religion of the Supreme Being vs. Catholicism" is a false dichotomy, since proponents of the former were also proponents of freedom of religious conscience--Robespierre for one said that those who wanted to stop the mass from being said were worse fanatics than the priests--and it was the dyed-in-the-wool atheists who thought it was a crime to be Catholic. However, it is true that the priests of the regions in civil war such as Bretagne but also, of course, the Vendée, were brainwashing ignorant peasants into giving their lives for a cause that didn't benefit them at all.

Obviously, the average Breton foot-soldier wasn't aware that he was fighting for feudalism against democracy, but you can bet the authority figures he was listening to did.

Not to mention the fact that the religious issue was not the only one at stake. There's some pretty good evidence that economic factors also played a large part. There were other parts of France, for example, where the vast majority of the priests were non-juring. So why did civil war break out only in western France, and only in some parts at that? Many of the areas where the peasants were able to buy most of the national lands were republican, while those where the bourgeoisie claimed the vast majority of these lands and peasants felt for this reason that the revolution did not benefit them, were much more likely to take up arms against the revolution.

And I wouldn't assume that all changes came from Paris--the Midi in particular was known for being even more avant garde than Paris on many issues in the Revolution, in particular in calling for a republic in the immediate aftermath of the flight to Varennes, before and independently from the Cordeliers and their allies in Paris. Most departments, in fact, did not become counterrevolutionary until informed of the "betrayal" of Paris by the fleeing Girondin leaders. In other words, the Revolution was far from a Parisian phenomenon, as many revolutionary leaders in Paris learned--in some cases to their surprise--with the arrival of the fédérés in the days before 10 August.

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2007-07-19 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
Obviously, the draft constitutes an economic loss, but is there any evidence that Bretagne and the other areas of royalist uprising were less able than others to bear this loss? It seems to me that there must be another explanation, but stubbornness in way of religion might not necessarily account for it all--the statistics I mentioned about the high incidence of non-juring priests in other regions, for example.

And even assuming that religion did account for most of their reasons for fighting, I suppose my main point is, an ignorant 18th century peasant, who, believing himself to be fighting for what is right-- according to his indoctrination since earliest childhood--, but really fighting against his own best interests by taking the side of the authority figures who continue to pull the wool over his eyes, so to speak, for their own ends, is to be pitied. However, the two groups of people I can't have any pity for are a) the priests and lords who knew that the real fight was not about religion, but about "democracy vs. feudalism," but, also knowing that the peasants would be unwilling to fight for their cause thus articulated, framed it to the peasants as a religious war; and b) people living today who support the "whites," though, with historical perspective, they really ought to know better. I mostly just find the latter pathetic though.

And the goings-on in the Midi were just an example; I by no means meant to imply that the Bretons had any knowledge or appreciation of events there.

[identity profile] tearosefury.livejournal.com 2007-07-17 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
That is just all sorts of fun and awesome.

[identity profile] kkrum.livejournal.com 2007-07-18 06:34 pm (UTC)(link)
agreeeeeddd!!