More costume pattern stuff...

[victoriavandal.livejournal.com]

Here's the instructions (in 2 parts, because the book is over a4 size) for the 1795 costumes I posted patterns for yesterday, and another pair of patterns for a 1785 couple, also English, but in clothes very similar in cut to ones worn in the early 90's.
I hope the writing's legible! If there's any missing I'll type it in shortly.

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[victoriavandal.livejournal.com]

The missing bit at the end of the 1785 instructions page reads: 'wigs, frequently unpowdered, and fuller at the sides, are crimped and curlier. The queue [pony tail] is usualy turned up on itself and tied with narrow black ribbons (catogan)' [My note - Robespierre appears to be wearing his long pony tail turned back on itself like this in a couple of profile etchings from the Assembly era]

'Accessories - similar to previous fashion' (which is 1770, and is snuff box, handkerchief and a pair of watches

[kurotoshi.livejournal.com]

:D!! Niiiicee! <3

[victoriavandal.livejournal.com]

Thanks - I hope they're useful! I'm wondering why they needed two watches. In case one wound down, or just a bit of symmetrical bling for each pocket?

[kurotoshi.livejournal.com]

LOL! PROBABLY for a bit of symmetrical bling~

[fatimahcrossin.livejournal.com]

Thank you for these patterns !
I am fond of all kind of costumes, from historical to ethnic ones - and I love costumes of revolutionary France, especially male ones :).
I'd like organize a Rev party sooner or later. Everyone who is invited should wear an appropriate costume. And - why not ? Inspired to someone chosen among our well-known characters.
So I have a question for you: I have two books dealing the history of European costumes from XIVth century 'till XXth, but I hardly found any information about men and women underwear in revolutionary France. Do you know something about it ? (-> if I organize this party everything must be perfect - underwear too :D)

[citoyennemiyuki.livejournal.com]

thanks for the patterns:D I never find good patterns about my favourite costumes. There seems so interesting.
I would be a question, do you have pattern about redingote man clothes (I mean french clothes around 1790, but I don't know exactly what name that clothes is) and regency female dresses? I would like to make this kind of clothes with someone, just I didn't find good patterns XD...

[victoriavandal.livejournal.com]

Yes, I know what you mean, hardly any books mention underwear! As far as I can tell, men's underpants don't come in until the early 19thc - before that, they wore long shirts and tucked the shirttails underneath them inside the trousers. They wore braces to hold the trousers up and suspenders for their socks, though some socks were full-length, like tights. Shirts were baggy, so the waistcoat held it to the body (waistcoats had ties at the back so you can make them close fitting, and if you were really vain you could wear a corset), and the frills at the front and cuffs were detatchable for delicate washing. For women, the corset held the breasts up, and I don't think they wore any knickers or pants (and they just bled into their underskirts!) until those grecian-style semi-transparent dresses came in in the mid 1790's, when a sort of long pant came in for modesty. There's a website called The Costumier's Manifesto that has hundreds of costume links and there are books just on the history of underwear (I'll have to get one at some point!). Good luck with your party - I actually prefer 18thc men's clothes, too! Especially the stripey socks. There's an excellent man's 18thc wig page on the Costumier's Manifesto website, toohttp://www.costumes.org/History/100pages/18thlinks.htm#French%20Revolution%20Period%20(1798-1800) Are you going to serve 1790's food, though?

[fatimahcrossin.livejournal.com]

That's wonderful, thank you !
I have also checked the link you gave me - it is an excellent site - and for ethnic costumes too :)
I am not very fond of XVIIIth century men costuming in ancien regime (very similar to those Robespierre was used to wear actually), they were too fancy for my tastes and more I don't like very much that kind of shoes, but I love - yes: this can be really called love - the typical jacobine-montagnard costume with a dark-coloured doublebreast coat and riding boots (like Saint-Just's for instance).
About the party-> I will have to wait 'til next fall for sure: now it's too warm here to wear wigs, corsets and redingotes.... such a clothing would be a torment ! But the idea of XVIIIth century's food is lovely: I had already thought about the music (it is difficult to find some appropriate, because the Terror didn't like balls and the minuet were regarded as something connected to aristocracy), I didn't think of food indeed. We should start a new topic to discuss it !

[victoriavandal.livejournal.com]

There's a 1960's book called 'Daily Life in the French Revolution' I got recently - I haven't read it all yet, but it does have some details on food. If I find anything interesting recipe-wise, I'll post it up. They seem to eat a lot of jam!

[fatimahcrossin.livejournal.com]

Curious to know something about it. And to taste it - of course :)