ext_140482 ([identity profile] livviebway.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] revolution_fr2008-10-05 12:45 pm

French Revolutionary Photos

I'm not sure whether or not anyone is interested in this, but I thought I'd post it just in case. I am currently living in Paris and in my free time, here and there, I go to assorted revolutionary sites and take photos. This includes big stuff like the Conciergerie and little stuff like graves and homes of less than famous people. I've been putting it together into albums, which I figured I'd share with anyone who was interested here. This is the first album, a second one is well underway, but I figure I'd post it when it was full.

French Revolutionary Photos

[identity profile] palais.livejournal.com 2008-10-05 11:12 am (UTC)(link)
Absolutely fantastic; thank you so much for sharing.

[identity profile] victoriavandal.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the sculptor may have been taking the piss out of him a bit!

[identity profile] emma1794.livejournal.com 2008-10-05 11:27 am (UTC)(link)
Nice, very nice. It's great to be able to look at these and say 'I've been there!' Thanks for sharing!

[identity profile] loremaula.livejournal.com 2008-10-05 12:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Adding to LJ memories.
Thank you so much. Great and very interesting pics. If I ever go on a trip to Paris, I'll try to visit these places.

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, that's wonderful; you got to many more places than I ever have in several trips. -__-;

I have a question and a correction, though, if you will. First, the question: where exactly is that door to Robespierre's extra staircase? Is it in the courtyard? And if so, just on the left side?

The correction is on a minor point: David's heart is the only part of him buried in Père Lachaise; his body is interred in Brussels, where he died. (Since he died in 1825, they wouldn't allow him, as a regicide, back into France, even dead.)

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 02:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooh, then perhaps Hamel was right after all! (Not with his first plan, obviously, because he got that backwards, but with the one he gives in his reply to Sardou.)

No, indeed. Especially since he did develop a bit of a spine once it wasn't a question of life and death. (There's a great quote--I wish I could find it again -__-;--where he responds to a letter urging him to essentially beg Capet's brother to let him back into France, the assumption of course being that, like other great artists, he would be let back in if he agreed to paint things glorifying the Restauration. But he replies that he does not regard voting for Capet's death as a mistake; that he knew what he was doing and that he was and is willing to accept the consequences. It doesn't entirely redeem him, but it does prove he wasn't just an opportunist, unlike some.)

[identity profile] victoriavandal.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll forgive David anything for his Marat painting.

[identity profile] victoriavandal.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 05:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Even the ridiculous uniforms he designed for the École de Mars.

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)
You may have a point there.

[identity profile] victoriavandal.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 05:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, I know what you mean - the people in his history paintings look as posed and perfect as statues. I first saw the Marat painting in an art book we had when I was very small, too young to have a concept of 'the past', or even the difference between oil paint and a photo: it was a full page, the corpse with the wound and all that darkness behind, and I thought it was a photograph of a real person, or something religious, and the box with the mysterious writing on like a gravestone - I was fascinated by it! So, maybe I can blame David and his amazing propaganda skills for the person I am today!

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Really? I love it--or most of it, anyway (some of his later paintings aren't so appealing). It's supposed to be static--and linear, and intellectual. I can see how that might not appeal to some people, but I don't think it's a fault in and of itself, especially since it was deliberate. :/

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2008-10-07 06:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Hm, interesting. I don't like many of his portraits as much--although there are some I do like quite a bit--I don't think he was very good at portraying women, for the most part.

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2008-10-07 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with you as far as the ones that aren't supposed to be attractive are concerned, but with others, the ones I'm fairly sure are supposed to be pretty, he doesn't capture that very well. (But I agree, I'd much rather have a painter who captures his subject's character than one who tries to make every subject pretty--this is one of the reasons many of Vigée-Lebrun's portraits annoy me.)

[identity profile] victoriavandal.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 05:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for posting these! They're really quite sad - the broken cup and the dog-eared case, and the other leftovers...reminds me of clearing houses after relatives have died. I will have to get over my fear of tunnels/flying (stupid and illogical, I know) and go, though I know my friends will take the piss out of me when I get upset!

[identity profile] wolfshadow713.livejournal.com 2008-10-08 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
They're really quite sad - the broken cup and the dog-eared case, and the other leftovers...reminds me of clearing houses after relatives have died.

I sort of wonder what historical figures would think of the displays of their artifacts we put on display in museums. The typical objects--desk supplies, dishes, table settings, etc--aren't the things that most people purchase and use with the expectation that, a few generations later, the general public will be staring at them through pane of glass in a display case.

[identity profile] victoriavandal.livejournal.com 2008-10-08 10:06 am (UTC)(link)
There was a comment by G.K. Chesterton that the Revolutionaries seem like people who immediately belonged to a sort of classical antiquity or mythology, in that they were all, as a generation, killed - none of the main players lived to gouty old age, or to regale Victorian dinner parties with anecdotes. And of course they don't have graves: even their bones may have dissolved. So, I think it's weirdly appropriate that there's this display of broken china: more like something you'd see in a Museum on pre-history, shards of Roman pottery, a bent celtic torc - or shipwreck leftovers of a political storm where the bodies have been washed away.

On a lighter note, there's a great Alan Coren piece I'l have to root out on seeing Isambard Kingdom Brunel's hat.

[identity profile] trf-chan.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh God, wow, you took wonderful pictures. Thanks for sharing! I can't wait to see the rest.

(Incidentally, you can link people outside of Facebook to your albums there?)

[identity profile] hanriotfran.livejournal.com 2008-10-06 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Grrrr!!!! Even if I am member of Facebook, I seems not to be able to see your pictures. Maybe later I could enter there, but by now, I can only see blank little squares. Again: GRRRR!!!!

HanriotFran (Vanesa)

[identity profile] hanriotfran.livejournal.com 2008-10-07 04:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks...I shall do it.

HanriotFran (Vanesa)

[identity profile] citoyenne.livejournal.com 2008-10-07 09:07 am (UTC)(link)
Barnave looks ridiculously smug, he really cracked me up xD So did the 'revolutionary portrait party', with the amusing wallpaper. And I find the women's courtyard in the Conciergerie far more pleasant looking than I probably should.

Is Antoinette's the only cell that has been re-created? And can you actually walk into the Duplay's courtyard? It looks like there's bags of trash there and such; from this picture I get the feeling that it's the backyard to the restaurant.

[identity profile] hanriotfran.livejournal.com 2008-10-10 06:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm writing from an ultra-modern computer now, and I've having the exactly same troubles I had in my old PCV. I just can't see your photos and I'm very frustrated, since I was really interested in them. And I'm also having trouble with Livejournal. Almost always, the site loads extremely slowly and I can't see most of the images shown here. Does anyone knows how to solucionate the problem...I'm in a friend's house using her very modern computer and the results are always the same...I can't see any pic, nor art from this site. But weird enough, I can see perfecly all people's avatars. Explain me this!

HanriotFran (Vanesa)

Finally!!!! YAY!!!!

[identity profile] hanriotfran.livejournal.com 2008-10-10 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, People! I finally could see and save the nice Olivia pics! I did what follows: I opened them, and went to the little blank square and marked "copy"...Then I opened Word and put the pic there. Then I finally could SEE all the photos and send them one by one to my mail. Then I could save them to Bmp system, and convert them to jpeg later. It was a hard work, but it was worth to do it, since your pics, dear Olivia are just....amazing.

I'll comment them later, for now, I'm seeing that you posted your second album in Facebook! Great!

I hope I could go to Paris again and visit my beloved Hanriot's house at Rue de la Clef. It still stoods.

HanriotFran (Vanesa)