[identity profile] missweirdness.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] revolution_fr
Yeah, i guess what i found on youtube?

That dreadful Terror! Robespierre and the french revolution..

here's the link -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcZxrb_L0_M

part 1 of 9, hahahah

enjoy =O
 

 and apparently the emo GUY is ST. JUST! GASP!

 
I'm watching now..=( 

now discuss!
 

 

Re: Well, that was *subtle*...

Date: 2009-07-14 04:53 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
It must be cocaine, he keeps touching his nose all the time.
As for the common Wajda style insinuations: I suspect that they were tempted to stress it even more but probably some of the experts (Scurr?) prevented them from it. I am thinking of Scurr, because of the interview on Danton - Robespierre Victoriavandal uploaded, in which Scurr seems to refuse this Danton-good-masculine vs. Robespierre-bad-feminine dychotomy. It has come on my mind as I must admit that the BBC's Robespierre, though extremely inaccurate, does not seem to "give in", although SJ might seem interested.
SJ is called a child, so his dependence on and selfless admiration of R. (VERY HARD TO WATCH) could be interpreted in the frame of a paterno-filial relationship, too. Although it does not make things any better.
As far as I know nobody ever insinuated such thing in the 19th century. Did it all began with the psychoananlysis? In the 19th century they accused Robespierre of taking part in orgies and Saint-Just of skinning pretty young girls or having them executed for refusing him. This was what made people "BAD" and "NO GOOD FOR GOVERNMENT" in the 19th century. Now it seems that an indirect "accusation" of homosexuality is enough. Oh progress... :-o

Re: Well, that was *subtle*...

Date: 2009-07-14 05:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
That would explain a lot.
Perhaps Scurr doesn't like those kind of techniques, but I certainly don't think that holds for the rest of them. And I have to say, it didn't really seem like a paterno-filial relationship to me. For one thing, what was Saint-Just doing all those times in Robespierre's bedroom when he was sleeping? At any rate, the phenomenon seems to have cropped up in this manner:
1) Thermidorians and anti-Robespierriste 19th century writers accuse Robespierre of having orgies,
2) Robespierriste 19th century writers assure us that he was a model of chastity,
3) 20th century historians, for whom chastity is far from the ideal reply to the previous group with, "you said it, he was chaste--there must have been something wrong with him."

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