[identity profile] missweirdness.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] revolution_fr
Okay i have to ask..because i don't think anyone has..

*look around the corners suspiciously*

Since i've been recently for the whole weekend, nursing a bad infection thus staying in bed like Maxime xD I thought..

why not?

anyhow, from any french revolutionary film, what is your favorite portrayal of Maxime or Saint-Just or Camille?

I have to think upon t his..>.>no i know it! I like Andrzej Seweryn as Maxime in La révolution française =0

Date: 2009-10-18 04:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pandasmarch.livejournal.com
I liked Wojciech Pszoniak as Maxime in Danton...

Date: 2009-10-18 10:12 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
my favourite portrayal of Maxime is also that by A. Seweryn :)... but i also really really like Ronan Vibert as Maxime in The Scarlet Pimpernel:D...

Date: 2009-10-19 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
My tastes are a bit weird;). I have to admit.. Maybe I was a bit biased because Vibert is one of my favourite actors. But I try to watch every thing that has to do with the revolution and I’ve read somewhere that Vibert tried to ignore the steroetypes and bring a more historically accurate personification of Robespierre, so I decided to watch the series. It made the revolution look a bit bad as other British stuff (and my teacher) do but with time I think I’m getting used to it somehow (however still irritates me) [don't know how to explain myself exactly sry]... As said before, I'm getting used to it also because of my teacher. I study history and my teacher like to say stuff such as “monstrous..." or "monster...” when referring to the Revolution and Robespierre and when I tell her something in his favour, she just ignores me and this still really annoys me. I agree with you about the book. My teacher suggested that I should read it but I only read the first few chapters.

I watched La Terreur et la Vertu. It looked really good but I felt like an idiot because unfortunately I don’t know French :( (I’m hopeless at languages) however in a few parts i used some of the translations of the film done in this community so thank u all citizens:)… from what I saw i agree that Negroni was also very good in the part.

thanks a lot and sry if my english isn't so good...

Date: 2009-10-19 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sibylla-oo.livejournal.com
Some history teachers should really have been better history students...Whatever, one is still surprised how it's possible that with such competition for posts people who think "monster" is a historical category get their chair :O "Monster?"...has she ever heard the word "professional"?

Date: 2009-10-18 12:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sibylla-oo.livejournal.com
My favourite fictional portrayal of Robespierre, St.Just and Le Bas are those by Negroni, Manuel and Santini in La Terreur et la Vertu, though I prefer Negroni's portrayal of Robespierre to Manuel's portrayal of St.Just, as I find Manuel's Saint-Just too calm, kind and idealized.
As for Danton, it's Brandauer in La Révolution française.
As for Desmoulins, it's Chéreau in Wajda's Danton.
As for Marat, it's Mezzogiorno in La Révolution française.
As for Couthon, the poor guy hasn't been portrayed in a realistic way in any movie.And I cannot help myself but I perversely love Asso's Vadier in La Terreur et la Vertu...sorry ;-)

Date: 2009-10-18 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
I agree with all of these, strangely enough. Though I didn't find Ménard particularly bad as Couthon in LTelV--and certainly not compared to, say, crazy, bunny-stroking!Couthon in Napoléon. Robespierre and Le Bas are especially spot-on in LTelV, though, you're right. And the resemblance of the actors to the characters they are portraying is phenomenal too; Negroni looks a lot like the bust in my icon and Santini especially looks like Le Bas's portrait come to life, in my humble opinion.

And while I agree that LRF had the best Danton and Marat, I don't think I've seen what I would consider the definitive film versions of either of them yet. Especially since Brandauer doesn't really physically resemble Danton much.

Date: 2009-10-18 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sibylla-oo.livejournal.com
I second all your precissions. Yes, the LTelV Couthon is the best of the existing ones, but he's so little protagonism...

Date: 2009-10-18 11:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
That's true; poor Couthon, he always gets ignored for some reason or other--in literature as in film. One of these days I'm going to try to remedy that.

Date: 2009-10-18 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maelicia.livejournal.com
La Terreur et la Vertu -- no hesitation here. :)

Date: 2009-10-18 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
I wonder what people would say the worst portrayals are. That would probably be a lot harder...

Date: 2009-10-19 12:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sibylla-oo.livejournal.com
In film?
There would indeed be a strong competition of the US vs. British on the worst portrayals ever of the French revolutionaries.
Just think of the Black Book or the BBC document...I am just lucky enough for being spared from seing any adaptation of an original Anglo fiction, like the Tale of Two Cities or The Scarlet Pimpernel (I know the author was of Hungarian origin, but it's not the Hungarians who insist so obsessively on reading and adapting her work for decades and centuries)...

Date: 2009-10-19 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com
That's just what I mean; there are a lot more bad portrayals to choose from than good.

Looong list.

Date: 2009-10-23 04:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hanriotfran.livejournal.com
Best Maximilien? Andrew Seweryn, no doubt, but I should like it better if we had talked and behaved like Jean Negroni in "La Terreur et la Vertu".

Best Saint-Just?: Dennis Manuel, even if I imagine him physically closer to Boguslaw Linda, from "Danton" .

Best Danton? : The guy who portrayes him in "La Terreur et la Vertu"...I never remember his name. Shame on me.

Best Couthon?: The one from "La Terreur et la Vertu". Too old, yes...But at least he is not creepy like the one of Tadeusz Huk ("Danton") or the oyly one from "The French Revolution-Years of Rage".

Best Camille?: Patrice Chéreau's one. He is not so "nice" as François Cluzet. The one from "La Terreur et la Vertu" is closer to him physically, but I'd rather like Patrice Chéreau's hysterical Camille.

Best Collot d'Herbois: The one from "La Terreur et la Vertu".

Best Lindet: Same than above.

Best Vadier: Same than above.

Best Fouquier: Roger Planchon, from "Danton" . His acting is beyond words. I'm sad to announce that Roger Planchon just died some months ago from a heart attack.

Best Hermann: the one from "Danton".

Best Amar: Same than above. The guy is priceless!

Best Eléonore: "La Terreur et la Vertu"...Fabienne Tricottet, from "The French Revolution" is plainly an idiotic creature, and Anne Alvaro, from "Danton" is sorta of scary!

Best Hanriot: Michel Trévières, from "La Terreur et la Vertu". Every time I see him, I wants to kiss him. What a sweet baby-boy! Jean-Pierre Laurent, from "French Revolution: Years of Rage" is so ridicolous that I can't even criticize him.

Best Barère: The one of "Danton" ...VERRRRYYY HANDSOME!!!

Best Billaud: I can't decide. I'm between the one from "Danton" (I think his name is Jerzy Trela) and the one from "La Terreur et la Vertu"...They were both very accurate.

The Best Duplay: From "La Terreur et la Vertu"; the "French Revolution's" one is just an idiotic guy.

HanriotFran.

Date: 2010-02-10 01:08 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
it's an undeniable fact that Patrice Chereau's Camille is the best one....

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