FYI

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

In case anyone has given up on checking, the Amis de Robespierre have finally updated their website.

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[francoisejeanne.livejournal.com]

Glad to see that. Thank you!

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

You're quite welcome.

[maelicia.livejournal.com]

Wow, I had almost given up on that.

On a related note, as they link it, this editorial (http://www.amis-robespierre.org/fr/editorial.htm):

Dans l’Incorruptible n°5, on peut lire sous la plume de Charles Soulier l’article suivant : « la chaîne de télévision TF1, associée au Figaro magazine, nous a présenté lundi 12 décembre 1988 une véritable bouffonnerie sur le thème « Rouvrons le procès de Louis XVI ». Ce devait être, d’après Yves Mourousi, maître d’œuvre de cette émission, un mélange de fiction, d’imagination et de faits historiques sur des textes écrits par Arthur Conte, un monsieur qui estime que « les grands hommes de la révolution ? Beaucoup étaient des ratés, Robespierre, avocat sans cause, comme Desmoulins, ou Collot d’Herbois, acteur sifflé. Pas très amateurs de femmes avec cela. Voyez Sieyès, voyez Robespierre, voyez Saint-Just : des impuissants. Saint-Just : un presque voyou, un médiocre dangereux ».

Nice to see we're still there 20 years later.


P.S. I thought the problem with Saint-Just was that he had a "debauched youth". Someone will have to make up their mind on their slander, someday. Also on this: it's good when Danton debauches himself with prostitutes when he's married (and was married twice, and is a father), but it's evil when Saint-Just does it when he's a young man. Unless of course all along they meant by "debauched" that he was gay.

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

Me too, but I'm the kind of person who will keep checking a site on a regular basis months or even (as in this case) more than a year after its last update if it's important enough.

I think the use of "debauched" (even "debauched" as a code-word for gay) as a negative is no longer fashionable. Therefore, the debauchery must be denied. Just like virginal!Robespierre has replaced orgy-participant!Robespierre. I'm rather surprised it took them so long. Probably because Organt is hard to explain away.

On a happier note, I think I shall finally join the society, now that I have checks in euros and can pay the cotisation.

[maelicia.livejournal.com]

This self-proclaimed "counter-cultural", Breton nationalist site is still pretty close. (http://www.contreculture.org/AG%20Saint%20Just.html) All right so they don't say "debauched", but they describe him as gay and "préoccupé de sexe". (Wow, wait, are we still in the 21st century? who wrote that, someone who's 80 years old? Even that makes no sense: someone who'd be 80 nowadays would have been 30 in 1960 - ahem.) Bonus point for that fail!website to mention he's Robespierre's love and immediately hint that it's what gave him a career. ("Proche de Robespierre dont il est l'amant (1), il occupe malgré son jeune âge et son inexpérience des postes importants : Commissaire de l'armée du Rhin, président de la Convention." Yeah. Right.)

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

The only explanation I can think of is that regional nationalist groups tend to be rather old-fashioned, because that's certainly not the typical portrayal, these days.

Proche de Robespierre dont il est l'amant (1)
(1) All the fangirls say so.

[maelicia.livejournal.com]

(1) All the fangirls say so.
The true source, truly.

My fics are not historical documents.

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

I really think it is. It's not as if there are any historical documents in existence that would allow one to just state that as a fact in that manner.

[francoisejeanne.livejournal.com]

If I may add, the word "debauchery", as I've noticed it, is usually connected with rock bands and their off-stage wild parties.

Also, it's good to know know Saint Just was interested in zoophilia. :/

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

...Which are considered to be a good thing, for whatever reason.

Well, for satirical use, perhaps.

[maelicia.livejournal.com]

I'd say they just can't understand 18th century satyre (also apparently it's okay when Apuleius and Voltaire do it), but those counter-cultural philistines might not understand.