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 I need a poem for my English class, and was hoping to do one either about, or written during the French Rev. And, go figure, now I can't remember any besides that poem by Wordsworth, which I don't really want to do. Any suggestions?

Thanks

Date: 2008-11-19 06:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toi-marguerite.livejournal.com
Um, maybe Blake? He wrote The Marriage of Heaven and Hell in 1792, and it's about revolutionary ideas traveling from America to France. Blake also tried to write a poetic history of the FR (here's a sample: http://www.wwnorton.com/college/english/nael/romantic/topic_3/blpoem.htm), but it's loooooooong.

Percy Shelley was an FR fanboy, too- he wrote a couple of long allegorical poems on the FR (like Alastar and Queen Mab), but I'm guessing you'd want a shorter one.

... I'm kind of blanking at the moment on his shorter pieces, since he liked writing really long allegorical and philosophical odes. Like, long. Not much else to do in the 18th/ 19th century apparently. You could try 'Ode to the West Wind' since that's so famous, and is about the spread of revolutionary ideas.

Coleridge wrote some quasi-prophetic poem about the French Revolution being the culmination of the evolution of humanity, but I can't remember what it's called.

Date: 2008-11-19 06:45 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I'd suggest looking at the Romantics. Wordsworth mentions the Revolution in his Preludes (book eleven, I think...don't have a copy with me) and Coleridge's Ode to Liberty I think mentions the Revolution. At least one of his poems does.

Date: 2008-11-20 03:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolfshadow713.livejournal.com
Addendum to my previous post: If you can use ballads that were set to music, I am sure you can find some Irish and Scottish ballads referencing the revolution, though I can't recall any off the top of my head. I'm pretty sure there are some poems and songs on the French landing (or attempted landing...) at Kilpatrick Head in Mayo...

Date: 2008-11-19 10:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] victoriavandal.livejournal.com
I'll second Blake! His poem on 'The French Revolution' isn't just unfinished, I think it's barely started! Events, I imagine, overtook it, though you could look through it for an exerpt. 'The Tyger', though, would have to be the obvious one. There are two versions, slightly different. I've come across theories - though I must stress there's nothing to back this up - that the Tyger is the Revolution: certainly, the 'left' were often called human tigers. It seems to be a beast that figures a lot inpopular imagery of the time, possibly because it's big, savage, and non-'royal' (unlike the lion), ad also because there was a lot of colonial activity by the west in India really kicking off at this time: Tippoo Sultan (aka Tipu)was a pro-French 'Jacobin'ruler fighting the British whose emblem was the tiger, though this has no bearing on Blake's poem which was written in 1793, I think. It's a fantastic poem. And there's 'Jerusalem', too, which is about building a new society (and ironically now used by both the Labour Party and the poshest English public schools who have no idea the man who wrote it was once arrested for sedition for pushing a soldier out of his garden and saying 'damn the king'). That's an important point, though - to write in praise of the Revolution in Pitt's Britain risked imprisonment, transportation or death: vicars were arrested for preaching liberty in sermons: as such, it tends to turn up allegorically.

Both the first and second generations of 'Romantics' were understandably fascinated by the Revolution. Though written later, Shelley's The Mask of Anarchy is another popular poem with the British left - it was written after the massacre of 'Peterloo', in St Peter's Field, Manchester, where militia charged a crowd demonstrating for voting rights (I did a post on it on my lj page a couple of weeks ago) - it's the English version of the Champ de Mars massacre. Fantastic poem, specially the verse beginning 'Rise like lions after slumber/in unconquerable number.."

Wordsworth's lines 'bliss it was in that dawn to be alive/and to be young was very heaven' is the most oft-quoted whenever discussion of the French Rev is mentioned, (it's become a cliché), but he moved to the right and his view of the Revolution became negative: he was a friend of the Brissotins and, I think, actually visiting the Convention when Louvet made his denunciation of Robespierre - the incident appears in the Prelude.

We tend to forget Robert Burns was very radical - he's rumoured to have sent guns to France - and only get the haggis/mouse version in England (surprise!). 'A Man's a man for a' that' incorporates lines from Tom Paine (whose book was banned and who was sentenced to death in absentia) and The Tree of Liberty makes his politics very clear (I'll post this then do another post with a link, cos links screw up my posts)




Date: 2008-11-19 10:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] victoriavandal.livejournal.com
http://216.239.59.132/search?q=cache:cPmolaJIhp8J:gordscafe.tripod.com/id48.html+robert+burns+the+tree+of+liberty&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&client=safari

Date: 2008-11-19 11:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] victoriavandal.livejournal.com
There are a lot of Burns' poems, read and sung, on youtube (many have been set to music: there has been a long campaign to have A Man's a Man as the Scottish National Anthem - the English campaign is for Blake's Jerusalem - two radicals!). The problem with Blake for your purposes is the length and irregularity, though: The Marriage of Heaven and Hell (1789 -1790) defends violent insurrection: 'the tigers of wrath'(though later, he was not a defender of the Terror). 'London', 1794, is shorter and more reader-friendly.

Date: 2008-11-19 11:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] victoriavandal.livejournal.com
http://www.gailgastfield.com/mhh/mhh.html - Marriage of Heaven and Hell - probably not much use for your immediate purposes but amazing anyway - and 'London'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_(poem)

Date: 2008-11-19 11:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eleonored.livejournal.com
THE FALL OF ROBESPIERRE, AN HISTORIC DRAMA
First Act by Coleridge
Second and Third by Southey
(http://schoollibrary.com/eBooks/WorldeBookLibrary.com/robespierre.htm)

Date: 2008-11-19 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] citoyennemiyuki.livejournal.com
I will not write useful comment again XD I rememrered Blake and Paine's name. I think you need english poems. I can suggest hungarians only, but I didn't find theirs english translations....(there were many hungarian followers of revolution, they were hungarian jacobins; the leader was Ignác Martinovics. Also they were hungarian poets, who supported revolution (János Batsányi, Ferenc Kazinczy (he started to translate "The social contract" for example))
I can say about hungarian jacobins more, if someone is interested in it.....

Date: 2008-11-19 07:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misatheredpanda.livejournal.com
http://www.worldburnsclub.com/poems/translations/628.htm. I cannot express how happy the last stanza makes me. &hearts

(Also, while googling, came across a lovely little verse by Burns on Burke's Reflections:
"Oft have I wonder'd that on Irish ground
No poisonous Reptile has ever been found;
Revealed stands the secret of great Nature's work;
She preserved her poison to create a Burke!")

Date: 2008-11-19 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] victoriavandal.livejournal.com
He's fantastic, isn't he? I'd forgotten how good he was! But all you ever get on 'Poetry Please' is 'To a mouse'. There's a very good, angry reading of 'A Man's a Man' on youtube - it works better spoken than sung.

Date: 2008-11-21 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] misatheredpanda.livejournal.com
Yes. &hearts Well, I never had much exposure to him in America, but of course I've had constant reminders since I've been here... I will have to check out the youtube thing, it sounds lovely.

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