ext_311538 ([identity profile] missweirdness.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] revolution_fr2009-07-12 11:12 pm

TERROR, on YOUTUBE!

Yeah, i guess what i found on youtube?

That dreadful Terror! Robespierre and the french revolution..

here's the link -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcZxrb_L0_M

part 1 of 9, hahahah

enjoy =O
 

 and apparently the emo GUY is ST. JUST! GASP!

 
I'm watching now..=( 

now discuss!
 

 

(Anonymous) 2009-07-13 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
Do we really need so straightforward a propaganda against any kind of idealism? Do we need to be persuaded with such tools to be happy with our cynical consumerism? Do we really need to be convinced once and again that our socially and ecologically irresponsible behaviour and apathy are innocuous and SO MUCH BETTER than any organized effort to make things better. How is this kind of propaganda different from the 'totalitarian' one?
Stalin, an idealist who wanted human happines?
'Robespierre, the first man in history who believed that the road to virtue did not lead throught the persuation, but through the terror' How can any historian appear in a docudrama that says THAT NONSENSE???? Oh yeah, have no one ever hear of the religious conflicts in Early Modern Europe? Ok, if you accept torture as persuasion, then what they say might be true :-)

[identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com 2009-07-13 05:42 am (UTC)(link)
My feelings on the matter are as follows:
















(Anonymous) 2009-07-13 05:49 am (UTC)(link)
A funny point in the midst of a painful experience: it is really an interesting sign of intercultural misunderstanding, rather typical for the last couple of decades of depicting the revolutionnaries, to interpret the virtue and 'puritanism' as negative attitude towards alcohol and sex. These are the obsessions of other parts of the world and other periods, I am afraid. Virtue meant a very different, more political and social-relational thing in the French Enlightenment than a condamnation of alcohol and aVictorian spinster's idea of decency :-) In times when cultural history is a booming field, such deep misunderstanding is hardly acceptable in a serious docudment of a prestigious public TV channel.S.

(Anonymous) 2009-07-13 07:54 am (UTC)(link)
Is Zizek on cocaine?

Great comments of Victoriavandal on youtube

(Anonymous) 2009-07-13 10:17 am (UTC)(link)
Well done! Let's hope everyone who watched the document on youtube will read your comment.S.

(Anonymous) 2009-07-13 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
It is also very interesting how extremely hard times the anti-R movies have showing Thermidor. It is so hard for them to fit in Collot, Billaud, Fouché and company to the picture...However, as cynism is being praised, soon Fouché will become a very acceptable hero, so the problem for the filmmakers might be solved.
Another difficulty they seem to have with the Thermidor is Saint-Just's speech: either it is necessary to make it disappear (RF - Les années horribles) or it is totally misinterpreted as in the BBC shit where SJ is a "schoolboy", or his master's voice, who is simply insisting on Robespierre's purging intentions from the previous day's speech.
Another unsurprisingly common thing is invisible Le Bas and Augustin - of course, the triumvirs were evil and thus had no friends...
I also have hard times understanding why SJ is always depicted as a loner, totally dependent on Robespierre. Ok, they might not be willing to mention unimportant people as Gateau and Thuillier, but the non-existence of Le Bas is eloquent.

Well, that was *subtle*...

[identity profile] estellacat.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
So in this version, Saint-Just takes Éléonore's place in giving Robespierre his bouquet before the FdlÊS. It seems we have a resurgence of the old "Robespierre and Saint-Just were gay and therefore evil" thesis that we've already seen in Wajda's "Danton" and LRF. Wonderful. (It should be noted that I don't have a problem with Robespierre/Saint-Just when it's not used as in pathetic attempt to make them "abnormal" and therefore worthy of abhorrence.)

[identity profile] momesdelacloche.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 07:02 am (UTC)(link)
I missed this. I think I was watching Bruno on the cinema that day. Sounds like I made a good decision: Bruno was highly educational and made some interesting and original points.

(frozen comment)

[identity profile] momesdelacloche.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 07:16 am (UTC)(link)
But I do get the impression that you guys will hate anything that deals with your favourite guys, especially English TV shows, that aren't all COMPLETELY ACCURATE - i.e. they mention the little known but entirely true fact that the reason Robespierre looked so tired in the later days of his ministry, I mean, time on the Committee, was because at night he used to remove his glasses, don a tricolore cape and fly through the world combatting counter revolution, racism, sexism, ageism, curing cancer, feeding starving children in Africa and correcting outrageous fashion slip-ups.
And then they expected him to be chirpy and act reasonably in the mornings. How unfair.
D=

[identity profile] citoyennemiyuki.livejournal.com 2009-07-14 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh My God! I can't watch this to end! THE ENGLISH DOESN'T DO ANY FILMS/DOCUMENTARY FILMS ABOUT THE REVOLUTION!!!! Emo-haired Saint-Just is terrible..emos are everywhere :(...I wouldn't rather mention how Robespierre is not Robespierre XD

[identity profile] bettylabamba.livejournal.com 2009-07-17 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Image

Sorry, but I couldn't resist.

I haven't posted since forver in this group. It's awesome to see a bunch of new blood--and most of the some peeps.