Totally disturbing

[missweirdness.livejournal.com]

Yeah, i'm not dead =) the guillotine hasn't got me yet..anyhow..i was going on the internet and looked up the french revolution and came up to this disturbing picture which made me laugh xD

and i wanted to share it with you all because i have a sick sense of humor or whatever. and enjoy xD hahahahha

discuss xD

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Comments

[josiana.livejournal.com]

Omsb, this is beautiful. Do you know where it's from?

[sophiedegrouchy.livejournal.com]

Dylan Meconis created it to go with her "Bite Me" comic (now available in stores!), which is about the wacky adventures of vampires during, well, you can guess when. It's good fun.

[josiana.livejournal.com]

Oh, thank you very much. :D

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

About equal parts amusing and disturbing. (Though Desmoulins' leaf is the wrong color.) That said, I investigated the comic it was drawn to go with and I can't remember the last time I've seen anything so stupid.

[sophiedegrouchy.livejournal.com]

In defense of the artist, she made it nearly a decade ago. Her current project is a beautifully drawn, far more serious story about, eh, Enlightenment-era universities, German theology students, and Spinoza (and maybe werewolves, but mostly religion).

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

Oh, I certainly don't mean to attack the artist. It's just that, for the general, the comic, whatever its age, is about as accurate as the Scarlet Pimpernel (when it has anything to do with history at all, which doesn't seem to be frequently) and for the particular, I've always found vampires rather dull. The latter point has nothing to do with the artist, and as for the former, as far as I can see, if one is going to include neither historical events nor historical mentalities (nor even accurate historical costume!), one should choose a fantasy, rather than a historical setting.

...Which by no means rules out the possibility that the other comic is good, but I can't comment on that, since I haven't read it.

[sibylla-oo.livejournal.com]

Well, after I read your first post, I have checked the website of the author where she states that FR is responsible for "European nationalism" (yes, the bad, murderous, genocidal one, unlike the correct one, you know which she means :-) and for the WW I and WW II, so that's sort of enough for me to know about the author's worldview. For the sake of my mental health, I prefer not to read the comic :-D

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

I didn't notice that, but I'm not surprised. In the comic, "Robespierre" autographs someone's thigh in "the blood of the oppressors."

On the other hand, if you want to be irresponsible and take the reductio ad absurdum route, you could argue that without the Revolution there could have been no Bonaparte, without Bonaparte no Bonapartistes and therefore no Napoléon III, without Napoléon III no Franco-Prussian War, and without the Franco-Prussian War no desire on the part of France for revenge on Germany, etc. But of course, opening up a possibility is not really the same as causing something, especially not at so many removes. Hence the reductio ad absurdum. (Though I'm sure there's a revisionist out there who would love to adopt the argument.)

[sibylla-oo.livejournal.com]

So very Robespierre-like, isn't it? ;-)

I see, that's what Žižek calls from Plato to NATO (tracing ideological responsibility through millenia) ;-)

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

Quite. -_-

It seems he has at least one useful idea (or at least a catchy title for it).

[sibylla-oo.livejournal.com]

Actually, after being appalled by his analysis of jacobinism (Robespierre or the "Divine Violence of Terror" - which I find very un-historical) and by his appearance in the BBC docudrama, I have decided to give him a chance and hear more from him. Actually, I have found he makes quite a lot of interesting points on different subjects (limits of empathy, "tolerance" versus fraternité, social versus cultural analysis etc.). I have put the links on my LJ, as well as some of my comments on what I find relevant.
Now I understand what he meant by the reference to Gandhi in the docudrama, he was not allowed to explain it: he meant that Gandhi's resistence through organized mass negation to patricipate in the functionning of the colonial regime was a very "violent" and efficient way of disrupting the instituttions of British colonial rule.

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

Perhaps the key here: he's clearly using the word "violence" differently than most people, who tend to immediately think of physical violence when they hear him talking about it. Mind, I still think he's wrong about the Terror, even if he's speaking of a kind of Gandhian disruption rather than physical violence, since that's really not how anyone at the time thought of it. But there does seem to be some logic to his arguments when considered from that point of view.

[sibylla-oo.livejournal.com]

Yes, I agree with you. His analysis of the Terror is far too abstract and far too deprived of any historical context.

What I like about Žižek's remarks on Robespierre is the following:
"The popular image of Robespierre is that of a kind of Elephant Man inverted: while the latter had a terribly deformed body hiding a gentle and intelligent soul, Robespierre was a kind and polite person hiding ice-cold cruel determination signaled by his green eyes. As such, Robespierre serves perfectly today's anti-totalitarian liberals who no longer need to portray him as a cruel monster with a sneering evil smile, as it was the case by the 19th century reactionaries: everyone is ready to recognize his moral integrity and full devotion to the revolutionary Cause, since his very purity is the problem, the cause of all trouble, as is signalled by the title of the last biography of Robespierre, Ruth Scurr's Fatal Purity. [30] The titles of some of the reviews of the book are indicative: "Terror wears a sea-green coat," "The good terrorist," "Virtue's demon executioner," and, outdoing them all, Graham Robb's "Sea-green, mad as a fish" (in Telegraph, May 6 2006). And, so that no one misses the point, Antonia Fraser, in her review, draws "a chilling lesson for us today": Robespierre was personally honest and sincere, but "/t/he bloodlettings brought about by this 'sincere' man surely warn us that belief in your own righteousness to the exclusion of all else can be as dangerous as the more cynical motivation of a deliberate tyrant." [31] Happy us who live under cynical public-opinion manipulators, not under the sincere Muslim fundamentalists ready to fully engage themselves intheir projects... what better proof of the ethico-political misery of our epoch whose ultimate mobilizing motif is the mistrust of virtue! Should we not affirm against such opportunist realism the simple faith in the eternal Idea of freedom which persists through all defeats, without which, as it was clear to Robespierre, a revolution "is just a noisy crime that destroys another crime," the faith most poignantly expressed in Robespierre's very last speech on the 8 Thermidor 1994, the day before his arrest and execution:
But there do exist, I can assure you, souls that are feeling and pure; it exists, that tender, imperious and irresistible passion, the torment and delight of magnanimous hearts; that deep horror of tyranny, that compassionate zeal for the oppressed, that sacred love for the homeland, that even more sublime and holy love for humanity, without which a great revolution is just a noisy crime that destroys another crime; it does exist, that generous ambition to establish here on earth the world's first Republic.

[estellacat.livejournal.com]

I agree on both points. That particular passage, divorced from the rest of his theorizing, is brilliant. Well, aside from the translations. They could use a bit of work ("éclatant" rendered as "noisy", really?).

[chip-squidley.livejournal.com]

Danton and Marat...can't help but get a chuckle out of their expressions.

[lucieandco.livejournal.com]

Exclamation marks!

[(Anonymous)]

Salut!

i came across this journal only recently while searching on the french rev and maxime so i'm new here.... i really really adore maxime. think that i'm his only fan in this country(as far as i know). i'm even considered strange by my own friends because of my obsession on him and because i annoy them by talking on him (can't help it) every time we meet. so it was a great relief when i found this journal and that there are a lot of other citizens that love maxime and the french revolution. so thank u all citizens.........

i love this picture especially max he is sweet<<3 although (this pic) is a little bit disturbing too... marat seems to be very relaxed <3

big thanks
Salut!

ps: sorry for my english if it is not good

[cobweb-lace.livejournal.com]

Marat makes me giggle.

[tsukidelacroix.livejournal.com]

OH LOL MARAT. I love him!

[neuropathology.livejournal.com]

I sent a link to this poster's shop page to Maelicia a while ago. I thought it was amazing then, and still do, but I now know that THIS has the potential to generate a thousand times more lulz:
http://cgi.ebay.com/LES-PORTE-JARRETELLES-DE-LA-REVOLUTION-French-Sleaze_W0QQitemZ130327661954QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVHS?hash=item1e58224d82&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

[hanriotfran.livejournal.com]

I love it! And I couldn't but laugh when watching it, LOL..Congrats!

HanriotFran.

Reading the guys expressions ...

[(Anonymous)]

The best of all is ... their expressions!
Robespierre is like [strong Irish accent, because Maxime had relatives in Ireland] "Gneh ... this sock is so itchy ..."
Saint Just: "If I can put these under my shirt, I could pass for a lady ..."
Desmoulins, according to me, is thinking "Why I have writed Libertè? Now I want to write something else ..." [a.k.a. the name of his wife ...]
Danton "I'm 34 and 1/2 ... maybe I'm still enough young for doing this ..."
Marat smirks maybe could mean "Hey, baby ..."
It's so funny that I have draw a parody of this, according to one novel that I'm writing ...