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[toi-marguerite.livejournal.com]

Hello everyone!

Two things once again:
1. Would anyone be interested in beta- reading a Scarlet Pimpernel fanfic? I've always been irritated with the characterization of Robespierre in said series of novels, and am attempting to portray a more historically accurate one.
2. Is it true that Rosseau personally tutored Robespierre? According to someone on historical_love, he did, but I've never read about it. I'd think that it'd be something important enough in Robespierre's life to be included in all the things I've read on him.... Admittedly, I haven't read as much as I would like, nor have I read as much as everyone in this community, but I'd think that said information would pop up in at least one article or something. Have I just not read enough?

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[cachecache.livejournal.com]

I took a university course entirely on the French Revolution and I have read The Social Contract and a few other things by Rousseau (some of it in the original French, too) and I COMPLETELY disagree with what that the person said in her comment. Robespierre highly admired Rousseau and probably read all of his works but he was not tutored by him. I don't think two two ever even met and frankly, I can't really see Rousseau as anyone's tutor.

That person's obviously not a Robespierre fan (especially after her comment about him being a "historical failure") and, personally, I'd dismiss her remarks because they're 1) poorly researched and clearly biased (which is a bit sad since she claims to be a history major) and 2) she sounds like an arrogant...person.

Haha, sorry, I don't even know you and yet I'm defending you like this. But you've clearly done your homework and, well, no one bashes Robesy on my watch!

[toi-marguerite.livejournal.com]

That's alright! Thank you very much. ^^

Yeah, the "historical failure" bit made my response a little more tetchy than it should have been.

[cachecache.livejournal.com]

You're welcome! I fangirl Napoleon and Richard Nixon too, so I'm kind of used to having defend my stance. (My blood's still boiling over that historical failure bit...)

Also, I just reread what I wrote and I hope the first half of the first sentence doesn't come off as being pretentious or anything; I was only trying to show my credentials before sounding off. :D

[toi-marguerite.livejournal.com]

Oh no, not at all! I was rather afraid I sounded pretentious in my response on historical_love, actually.

Napoleon- fangirl love! *squees for the Emperor!*

[bettylabamba.livejournal.com]

no one bashes Robesy on my watch! -- word!

I'm not to familiar with SP, but I'll help beta your story if you want.

It's true, Robespierre was never tutored by Rousseau. [It would have been amazing if true. I don't think the Girodins would have heard the end of it!] It was fashionable for admirers to visit Rousseau's house in hopes of catching a glimspe of him. Robespierre did visit him while he was still in college when he was about 19 and got that lucky glimpse, but was probably never received by him. He wrote in a dedication to Rousseau: I saw him in his last days, and this memory is for me a source of proud joy. I looked at his august features, I saw the imprint of the black disappointments to which the injustices of men had condemned him.

[toi-marguerite.livejournal.com]

Right- I knew about that quote, but I thought that was the extent of their relationship.

Er, I'd love it if you beta'd, but I don't want to force it on you if you're not familiar with the canon. Um... up to you? The canon's not that difficult to get, I don't think, slash there's lots of online resources about it if you've got the time/ are curious about it. You might not need to read it, actually. My e-mail's elysemartin@hotmail.com in case you're interested, though. ^^

[trf-chan.livejournal.com]

-_-; Of course, LJ just ate my comment. So I'll try this again:

I'm 100% sure that Rousseau never personally tutored Maxime. I don't think I've even read half as extensively on him as many other people around here, but I definitely have read enough to know that it would have come up somewhere in my research by now if he had. I agree with cachecache - that user definitely isn't a fan of Maxime (nor does she appear to have much of an interest in the French Revolution in general, just judging from the kind of history-inspired icons she uses), and as such, I wouldn't trust her word against what you and all of the rest of us have read.

...Damn, her 'historical failure' comment is bugging me. But I don't trust myself to respond to it without getting...er...very, very rude, shall we say. XD;

[toi-marguerite.livejournal.com]

Poor dear!

Right. I'm glad that I'm not alone in feeling rather unread in comparison to the rest of the community, and in feeling that a Robespierre- Rousseau meeting would be more widely mentioned. ^^

[spurnedambition.livejournal.com]

1. I would-sounds great.
2. I have no idea, but seeing the other comments, no. I haven't checked out that community in a while, maybe I should post.
Maxime's not a historical failure. D:

[toi-marguerite.livejournal.com]

Oh, awesome! Is there an e-mail address I can send the files to?

Thanks! ^^

And yes. Maxime is NEVER a historical failure. I didn't want to address that because I'd get rather too upset over it....

[vulpea-rea.livejournal.com]

as to her recent reply to your comment response: what self-respecting 'history major' just throws some book titles at you? "um, i'm right, okay? go check these books, i'm busy vacationing, ta~tah." let's see you tell us what those books say, hun.

my above... tactfulness... is why i probably shouldn't get mixed up. xD

[toi-marguerite.livejournal.com]

I probably should read them all the way through... though.

Well, thank you though. <3 It's nice to feel that I'm not alone in disliking her answers.

[jesta-ariadne.livejournal.com]

*meeps slightly at reply over at historical_love*

Yeah, no, as everyone said, Rousseau didn't personally tutor Robespierre; Robespierre said he saw him once, and he wrote later how it was Rousseau who "taught me to appreciate the dignity of my own nature" etc, and became a bit of an obsessee as we know. C'est tout. I can only think that maybe "taught" was misconstrued just a liiiittle? ^^

*...wishes she had more userpicspace for rev icons.*

[kurotoshi.livejournal.com]

1. yeah, sure!

2. I don't know, that sounds kinda iffy to me, I wish I could help, but Max isn't my area of expertise