[identity profile] acolnahuacatl.livejournal.com
Easy reference is very easy. And yes, even though the telephone wasn't invented until 80-some-odd years after the revolution, it's here for comedy's sake :V

MOAR MARAT IN DAVID IN COMICS (and once again, inspired by [livejournal.com profile] kurotoshi's comic). Oh and my humor is very weird. Just sayin'....

STOP CALLING STOP CALLING-- )

/crawls back under rock until next time
[identity profile] victoriavandal.livejournal.com
Hello, long time no post (it's so slow these days on a non-Intel Mac!). Dunno if this news has travelled worldwide, but European airspace is currently unusable because of the dust cloud from an Icelandic volcano. If the eruption goes on much longer it's going to cause imported food shortages here and severe hardship for - for example - African farmers who depend on air freight to the European market. Hundreds of skeletons from a medieval mass grave were recently dug up near my friend's workplace in Spitalfields, London, dead from starvation after a volcano caused failed harvests, and I heard discussion of the 1783 eruption today, and found this in the Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr/15/iceland-volcano-weather-french-revolution
[identity profile] maelicia.livejournal.com
Random fashion question today to solve a not-so-grand mystery of representations.

What's up with the all-too-dandy canes in Wajda's Danton and in the BBC docudrama? Isn't British!not!Carnot soooo proud in the back? Even... a little too much? While Emo BritishCockney!not!Collot is Emo. Wait, "emo"... I thought that was supposed to be the job of British!Orlando Bloom Billie Joe Armstrong Adam Lambert!not!Saint-Just. Sorry, I got confused.

Were they really a key fashion accessory then? Louis-Sébastien Mercier seems to more or less confirm it in the Tableau de Paris, apparently:

« Elle a remplacé l’épée qu’on ne porte plus habituellement, dit-il. On court le matin une badine à la main ; la marche en est plus leste et l’on ne connaît plus ces disputes et ces querelles si familières il y a soixante ans, et qui faisaient couler le sang pour de simples inattentions… On n’aurait réussi qu’avec peine à interdire le port des armes : le Parisien s’est désarmé de lui-même pour sa commodité et par raison… Les femmes ont repris la canne qu’elles portaient dans le XIe siècle. Elles sortent et vont seules dans les rues et sur les boulevards, la canne à la main. Ce n’est pas pour elles un vain ornement ; elles en ont besoin plus que les hommes, vu la bizarrerie de leurs hauts talons qui ne les exhaussent que pour leur ôter la faculté de marcher. La canne à bec de corbin disparaît peu à peu et ne se verra bientôt plus que dans la main du contrôleur ou directeur des finances qui seul est dans l’usage d’entrer ainsi chez le roi. »

Lazy translator here is lazy.

If Louis-Sébastien Mercier says it in the Tableau de Paris...!

But why is it only The Worst Portrayals Evar (from my POV they are, sorry) who give them this top fashion and admittedly cool accessory? And why not in La Révolution française while we're speaking of Worst Portrayals (lol)? It would have been practical to beat the crap out of Desmoulins in this ~famous scene~? (I'm being facetious, okay.) Are there other representations I missed that show them with canes too? Discuss.
[identity profile] amie-de-rimbaud.livejournal.com
So this evening I translated Act I of Pierre Duzéa’s “Camille Desmoulins, Tragédie en cinq actes et en vers” (1894), which I’m still in the process of actually reading. It’s an interesting text as a product of the fin-de-siècle, but no aesthetic achievement; the language is painfully stilted, and I smile to imagine Monsieur Hon-Hon stumbling over those heroic couplets. Other highlights so far include Saint-Just and Camille brandishing pistolets at each other in the Jacobin club (“Par hasard, désires-tu mourir?”).

I haven’t gotten to this yet, but according to Jean-Paul Bertaud we find in Duzéa’s portrayal of Robespierre the “rejected lover” of Lucile, “mad with passion, deception and jealousy”...

I’ve posted my translation of Act I here; apologies for its *meh* quality. If there’s any interest, I’d be willing to translate either the rest of the play or just some choice excerpts (at least for the sake of amusement). I also hope to post some of his letters from the “Correspondance.”

**Update**:  Today I posted the second act on the same site. Highlights:  a weird, condensed version of Revolutionary chronology (e.g., Lucile reports that she has just witnessed the execution of the Brissotins, but isn't the action of the play supposed to take place just before Camille's death?)...the dantonistes extol Charlotte Corday as a super-virgin-killer...first mention of Robespierre as the spurned suitor out for revenge!
[identity profile] trf-chan.livejournal.com
The Dantonists are this month's discussion point.


Considering April 5th and all...it seemed somewhat appropriate.

Discuss any of the individuals within this group, the group's aims, why they had those aims, and anything and everything else Dantonist-related!
[identity profile] trf-chan.livejournal.com
Annnnnd the results for this month's quote challenge (counting what may or may not have been incomplete guessing in some cases? XD;):

1st place: [livejournal.com profile] jonahmama
2nd place: [livejournal.com profile] sibylla_oo
3rd place: Tie, [livejournal.com profile] estellacat and [livejournal.com profile] citoyenneclark

Congratulations, all!

The answers, omg spoiler alert D: )

[livejournal.com profile] jonahmama, I'll be sending you a message about what next month's discussion point will be, along with guidelines and suggestions for the accompanying quote challenge.
[identity profile] trf-chan.livejournal.com
Remember, today is the last day to complete the monthly quote challenge if you haven't already! I will be taking answers through 12:00 AM CST (so you even have a bit of extra time if you're from the eastern part of North America or in Europe!).
[identity profile] coloneldespard.livejournal.com
Apologies if this has already been covered...I had a look and couldn't see it in the past posts. Does anyone have a book or website recommendations for Revolutionary sites still extant in Paris? Buildings, monuments etc? I'm visiting in June and staying at the Palais Royal, so will be geographically pretty close to revolutionary hotspots. My French is spotty but I can muddle by in reading (am learning at our Alliance Francaise centre in Sydney).

Most google searches I've done seem to turn up tours that are heavy on Marie-Antoinette and rather light on the Committee of Public Safety etc.
[identity profile] coloneldespard.livejournal.com
The Les Mis community will have already seen this one, but I've been inspired by all the Revolutionary fan art lately to plonk it in here as well!
Because Hugo said that Enjolras had  )
[identity profile] kasai9no.livejournal.com
This one is for the Saint-Just lovers out there; it's got a weathered look to it this time since the photo was more minimal than the painting and it just looked so empty...

Thank you, Mr. Angel of Death, for having a cravat that is so much easier to draw with the pen tool )


And I forgot to mention! Please, feel free to use these pieces in parts, as a whole, do whatever you want with them (draw mustaches, cut them apart, put Robespierre in a dress, whatever). I have made them for you! They are vector artworks, so if I did my work right, they should resize quite nicely without pixelating.
[identity profile] amie-de-rimbaud.livejournal.com
I just wanted to share two interesting Camille books I recently acquired for my collection (one benefit of perusing eBay.fr instead of studying). I was happy to find them, and I thought you guys would also appreciate their old, moldy wonderfulness.

The first is his unedited (selected...if only it were complete!) ‘Correspondance,’ published in 1836, first edition (according to the seller). I actually just picked this up at the post office today, so I haven’t examined it very closely yet. I’ll be sure to convey/translate any letters of special interest.

The second is ‘Camille Desmoulins, Tragedy’ by Pierre Duzéa, published in 1894. I was especially interested in this, having never seen it before. My efforts to find information on Duzéa have been futile, so I guess he was pretty obscure. If anyone could tell me anything about it, that would be great.

Again, I haven’t had much time to give this a thorough reading; superficial observations don’t support any remarkable literary merit. But as I happen to be particularly interested in 19th c. representations of the Revolution, I’ll eventually give it a much closer look and report back with better details/insight.

Maybe I’ll translate an excerpt in honor of April 5th!
[identity profile] kasai9no.livejournal.com
HELLO! To all you lovely people!
May this first post be a tiny homage to all of you and to the piece of history that always tends to be forgotten.

Brount ate his spectacles so he must go without them for a while... )


Just in case: it's a spoof off of an iconic Shepard Fairey print! Dozens of them have been made, almost everyone famous has been done...so I thought Robespierre might like one, too :)

Reminder~

Mar. 22nd, 2010 09:20 am
[identity profile] trf-chan.livejournal.com
There are only five days left to complete the monthly quote challenge, so get your guessing in soon!
[identity profile] maelicia.livejournal.com
Sooo before the Month of the CSP is over, I intend of making a series of posts on the CSP, based on stuff I already posted in my journal on ~~Random Facts Collected on the Committee of Public Safety~~. Because I think it could be shared to make it ~a pretty, fun and educative series~!

Now, before I find some time to actually fix these posts, have two macros -- same pic, different text -- from Saint-Just's POV in La Terreur et la vertu because it seems to have gone unnoticed on my LJ a little while ago and it deserves comments okay coz it's brillant rly:






In case you're unfamiliar with the actors of LTELV, from left to right: Billaud, Collot (mostly hidden by Billaud), Lindet, Carnot, Saint-Just.


Doesn't this make the Thermidor crisis more cheerful? It's not like, you know, he's going to die two days later and they're going to cover his decapitated body with quicklime? Lol?
[identity profile] maelicia.livejournal.com
This, which I just discovered, just topped most of the reasons why I nurture love-HATE feelings for TV Tropes:

I must bring to your attention that Maximilien Robespierre has his own TV Tropes page!... Uh-huh, after all these weeks of playing around on that site, I just discovered it. (Or perhaps it's new.)

Amoral Attorney and Just The First Citizen, orly? *rises eyebrow*

...hm, I don't know who exactly is this group in charge of TV Tropes, but they can sound like such cynical, bitter, ultra-sarcastic, arrogant b**ches at times. Trust me, I can tell. Ha ha ha, [livejournal.com profile] maelicia can do humor.

Some of the Tropes listed there can be, as usual, pretty hateful and/or just plain irritating, and any Historical Inaccuracies/Slash Mentions (yes, they exist -- that's how I first came across that site in fact) aside:

1) I love how, in "Just The First Citizen", Robespierre coexists with Roman Emperors, Stalin, Kim Jong-il, Hitler and Mussolini. Admittedly, it's rather unexpectedly appreciated that they put all presidents and prime minister of the present democracies in the same package deal. In other words: we're doomed.

2) Hoist By His Own Petard: he was eventually executed via guillotine, the fate he assigned to so many others. Ugh. I'm so tired of this one. But it could have been worse, they could have listed Karmic Death. However, Karmic Death is a bit too overused in Original Thermidorian Literature (that is, the pamphlets, etc.) -- which I can testify of after much readings of said documents. Shoot me... but don't miss me in the jaw. Ha ha ha, moar humor.

3) Villains Out Shopping: At the height of the Terror, he lived a normal life at a respectable boarding house, eating toast every morning with his favorite marmalade and flirting with his housekeeper's daughters (although not too much as he was a rather prudish guy). After this of course, he would go to work and sentence lots of people to guillotining.
Yes, you know... that would be logical since IRL "Villains" don't really exist, IRL people you consider "Villains" never really consider themselves as such, and IRL people do lots and lots of very common, banal, boring stuff like everybody does. No, seriously. In between Important Guillotining Scenes and Plotting of Evil Plans Of Tyranny And Mass-Murdering, Robespierre doesn't just brood in the dark sipping red wine blood---oh wait.

4) I'm grateful for the "It's worth noting that many of the morality tropes here differ in different works/character representations." and "A highly controversial person, the level of sympathy allotted to him depends on the work." Small progress. However, the rest....



Thoughts? Comments? Guillotine? Complaints to register? (I really can't stop linking back to that one lately.)
[identity profile] trf-chan.livejournal.com
Hello, all!

A while back, [livejournal.com profile] estellacat suggested that we have a monthly quote challenge, either posting one and having people guess the author, or posting several and having people match them up. So...that's what we're going to do!

The first challenge, tying into our monthly discussion point, involves quotes by members of the Committee of Public Safety. You will notice that there are only nine quotes, meaning that there are three members whose names you will not use. But telling you who they are would be far too easy, so you'll just have to discern for yourself!


You will have until March 27th to respond to this post with your guesses. Comments will be screened until that time. The winner will be the first to get the greatest number of answers correct and will also be in charge of the quote challenge for next month (and I'll run the monthly discussion point by that person first just to be sure they don't have any concerns about the feasibility of finding quotes related to it).

The only real rule, and this is a BIG rule, is no Googling. Googling would...well, it would make the whole thing fairly pointless. You are, however, able to scour any printed sources at your disposal for the quotes, as it involves a much larger amount of blood, sweat, and tears than just copying and pasting every quote into Google. :P

So without further ado...the quotes! )
[identity profile] misatheredpanda.livejournal.com
CAMILLE DESMOULINS IS 250 TODAY!

I don't actually have anything to commemorate the event, sadly. However I would like to encourage you to spare a thought (and perhaps a few words, if you feel so inspired) for this man who slipped into history - and more than a few peoples' hearts in the past 250 years - against the odds. I could never express how grateful I am for it.
[identity profile] trf-chan.livejournal.com
Bringing these back seemed to be a popular enough idea!

This month's discussion point is the Committee of Public Safety.

Discuss the Committee's responsibilities, how those responsibilities tended to be divided up among its members, power dynamics of the Committee, the policies/actions attributed to the Committee, and, well, anything else you can think of that's related to it!
[identity profile] la-muse-venale6.livejournal.com

Perhaps you don't understand it very well 'cause it's in Spanish, but I suppose you can hear well the main concepts xD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4okQnuO17kA

Just wonderful, enjoy ;)

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