[identity profile] amie-de-rimbaud.livejournal.com
 Salut et fraternité citoyens,

So I was telling someone about some illustration of Robespierre I'd seen in which he's a vampire...but now I can't find it anywhere! From what I remember, it's Robespierre with fangs in front of a guillotine (or maybe several guillotines), probably some 19th c. British portrayal. I thought I'd even seen it on this community, but I can't seem to find it as I peruse the archives. In any case, I'm sure one of you has seen it and can direct me to the source.

Merci!
[identity profile] amie-de-rimbaud.livejournal.com
Just a reminder to grab your pistolets and jump on the nearest piece of furniture in honor of our man of the hour Camille, who, on July 12, 1789, overcame his (adorable) st-st-stutter to get us all hot, bothered, and ready to wreak some serious havoc on royal property.

I give you a favorite scene from Carlyle :

But see Camille Desmoulins, from the Café de Foy, rushing out, sibylline in face ; his hair streaming, in each hand a pistol! He springs to a table : the Police satellites are eyeing him ; alive they shall not take him, not they alive him alive. This time he speaks without stammering :—Friends ! shall we die like hunted hares ? Like sheep hounded into their pinfold ; bleating for mercy, where is no mercy, but only a whetted knife ? The hour is come ; the supreme hour of Frenchman and Man; when Oppressors are to try conclusions with Oppressed ; and the word is, swift Death, or Deliverance forever. Let such hour be well-come! Us, meseems, one cry only befits : To Arms ! Let universal Paris, universal France, as with the throat of the whirlwind, sound only : To arms !— "To arms !"



Bravo Camille!

Wishing everyone a fantastic holiday!
[identity profile] acolnahuacatl.livejournal.com
ALL OTHER ISSUES ABOUT THIS BOOK ASIDE, I have made an important observation about Marat's presence in A Place of Greater Safty, citizens.

Let me share it with you )
[identity profile] lacommunarde.livejournal.com
As "on June 18, 1948, the United Nations Commission on Human Rights adopted its International Declaration of Human Rights," I figured today would be a good day to ask this. I hope it isn't too off topic...

Which Declaration of the Rights of Man and the Citizen - the one from '89 or the one from '93 - has more similarities with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights of 1948?

I personally think that the one from '93 does, but I'm curious to know what other people think.
[identity profile] maelicia.livejournal.com
So I'm a bit late for preparing and posting the quotes of the month's challenge, because RL is an organisation mess right now with a trip to England to plan, yadda yadda, so meanwhile, have some nice pics.

Found these, as I was watching one part of the horrid American docu of the History Channel:





Spot the hands. Tricoteuses Can Has Les Yay? Actually, granted, the one in pink in the first doesn't look that happy... nor a tricoteuse. It might have something to do with that. I'd like to hear the backstory of that image.

So we know what is the first, but I wish I knew what was the art of the second, coz it looks great. :(


Note on the vid I took these from: Seriously, that silly historian is reducing the crowd of women who marched to Versailles as "fishladies" who were "hugely muscular". Hello buying into propaganda stereotypes. Btw, if you watch (it's at 6:45), note the two on a cannon, I love those.

Plus the loser after that with his ultra-simplification "most of them probably couldn't even write their names" and "it's quite extraordinary that these ordinary women suddenly acted as the protagonists of this historical process" -- well, duh. He needs to do some reading on the role of women in revolts. Also: literacy had progressed. They probably could write their names. That might have been the only thing they could write, but that was a start!
[identity profile] trf-chan.livejournal.com
This month's discussion point is Women and the French Revolution. The main topics for discussion, just to get this narrowed down a bit, are:

A. Women's rights and the French Revolution
and
B. Women's participation in the French Revolution

But, of course, you're also free to bring up anything else of interest related to this discussion point. :D
[identity profile] jonahmama.livejournal.com

 The correct answers were:
1. Billaud-Varenne
2. Freron
3. Mme. Roland
4. Marat
5. Merlin de Thionville
6. Mirabeau
7. Barere
8. Desmoulins
9. Vadier
10. Saint-Just
11. Collot d'Herbois
12. Petion
13. Danton

And in a stunning reversal, congratulations to [livejournal.com profile] maelipstick on winning this bonus round, followed very closely by [livejournal.com profile] maelicia !


[identity profile] trf-chan.livejournal.com
Annnnnd the winners of this month's quote challenge are:

1st place: [livejournal.com profile] maelicia
2nd place:: [livejournal.com profile] maelipstick

Congratulations!

The answers, plus a possible correction )

[livejournal.com profile] maelicia, I'll be sending you a message about what next month's discussion point will be, along with guidelines/suggestions for the accompanying quote challenge.
[identity profile] amie-de-rimbaud.livejournal.com
Your resident Camille aficionado here (Camille-eon?) with another 19th-century fictional representation of the Desmoulins couple. It’s a novel called Crowned with the Immortals by Mrs. Hylton (Marianne) Dale, published in 1896. It’s funny because I just discovered the existence of this book a month or two ago, only it was out of print and impossible to find, but then the British Library went ahead and kindly reissued a paperback version of it! So hurray for more Camille literature becoming available.

It’s dedicated to Claretie, whose book Dale used as her central source. Her other sources (listed at the end) include Carlyle and George Henry Lewes’ Life of Robespierre (which I've never read--any good?), so that alone should indicate what kind of a novel it is. Very Victorian.

But for all its Victorian sentimentalism, I actually found it a fairly enjoyable read. If you like Claretie’s style, this novel is pretty much a fleshed out adaptation with dialogue and description, full of charming little domestic scenes and many social engagements among the revolutionaries: dinner parties, nights at the opera, romping around the green pastures of Bourg-la-Reine, etc. It’s not great literature, but the style is fluid and engaging, even if the characterizations are a little flat. While it isn’t free from the 19th-c. British prejudices against the Revolution (and Robespierre, of course, is dealt a poor hand), I wouldn’t say the politics of the novel are very conservative; overall, it’s really not that bad.

I’ve tried to learn more about Marianne Dale, and I’ve found a mention of her in “The Women’s Industrial News” and she seems to have been the author of an essay, “Child Labor Under Capitalism” (1908). Maybe her progressive views on her own society contributed to her interest in revolutionary France! :)
[identity profile] trf-chan.livejournal.com
Today is the last day to get your guesses in for this month's official quote challenge, so, er, DO IT.

Reminder!

May. 28th, 2010 12:29 am
[identity profile] trf-chan.livejournal.com
There are only two days left to get in your guesses for this month's official quote challenge, so go and give it a try!
[identity profile] citoyenneclark.livejournal.com
So I just found out that I can do an an independent study on something French Rev. related for school next year. Instead of taking a history class, (ie: Anatomy of Revolutions) I'd work for a semester on some sort of large paper. Here are some of my ideas, what do you guys think? Any other ideas? I've got 2 options for a faculty advisors each one is interested in different aspects.

Option 1) Professor one is more interested in cultural trends, and stuff like symbolism in the french revolution, and social aspects. (eh.....not my favorite area) She's interested in me writing my paper on the historiography of the French Rev, or how the French Rev is viewed through popular culture, compared through history. (ie: How was it viewed during the 3rd Republic, vs. Vichy France?) However, she's easy to work with, downside, likes Simon Schama.

Option 2) Professor two is more interested in political, economic and military history. Ideas for paper are: The CPS and planned economies, or how it operated as the world's first war bureau. Or the French-east India trading scandal (helped the downfall of the dantonists/hebertists.) and trade during the era. These topics seem a little more academic than say writing about pop culture. However he's rather hard to work with, (Socialist, and not in a good way, more the totalitarian type, and runs things according to such)

So...what do you guys think? any other paper ideas?
[identity profile] acolnahuacatl.livejournal.com
WARNING: MY LANGUAGE LOL


HAPPY BIRTHDAY MARAT



LOOKING FINE FOR 267 YEARS OLD, LOOK AT THIS FUCKING FREE BITCH.

AND NOW. IT. IS. TIME.

TO PARTY

Those thoughtless men who criticize me for being so stubborn, will see from this that I have been this way from an early age-- GET THE FUCK OUT, DAVID. )

POST ALL OF YOUR MARAT PICS. THIS IS A PARTY POST.
[identity profile] aemorgans.livejournal.com
The French revolution has piqued my interest. Thing is, I'm just not sure where to start reading. I don't want to, you know, read something bad. So that's where you guys come in. What would be, in your opinion, the best books for someone just starting out on the subject? In English please, although if there's something that's a must read in French I might be persuaded to haul out my dictionary and read it, if I can get my hands on a copy (which is probably unlikely). I really appreciate any help you guys can give me.
[identity profile] jonahmama.livejournal.com

Ok, so my quote challenge didn't meet "official criteria," because I couldn't find all of my quotes in French (lacking access to a research library). However, some of you might still find it fun.

The following quotes were written about / to Robespierre by his friends and colleagues. I think it's fascinating to see how the people who actually knew him saw him. See if you can match the quotes with their authors. Trust me, there is no point in trying Google for most of these. You could scour books, but you might do just as well taking some educated guesses. I have a cool engraving of a scene from 9 Thermidor to email to the winner. :)

the quotes )
[identity profile] trf-chan.livejournal.com
My apologies for the slight lateness of this!

Anyway, this month's quote challenge focuses on Robespierre. More specifically, it contains quotes of his from 1790 - 1794, which you must put in chronological order.

You will have until May 30th to respond to this post with your guesses. Comments will be screened until that time. The winner will be the first to get the greatest number of answers correct and will also be in charge of the quote challenge for next month (and I'll run the monthly discussion point by that person first just to be sure they don't have any concerns about the feasibility of finding quotes related to it).

The only real rule, and this is a BIG rule, is no Googling. Googling would...well, it would make the whole thing fairly pointless. You are, however, able to scour any printed sources at your disposal for the quotes, as it involves a much larger amount of blood, sweat, and tears than just copying and pasting every quote into Google. :P

Annnnd, here we go! Quotage )
[identity profile] trf-chan.livejournal.com
This month's discussion point is Maximilien Robespierre.


Because it's his birthday in a few days. Discuss any and all aspects of his life, his work, his views, his reputation, and anything else you think of!
[identity profile] nirejseki.livejournal.com
Hello, all!

I know it's a busy time for a lot of people - I'm currently in the midst of finals myself - but I was hoping that people might be able to take a little time out to help me out.

I also dearly hope that this isn't massively off-topic and is permitted to be posted. It does deal quite heavily with the FR, at least! : )

Anyway:

I'm heading off to France in a few weeks - Paris for a few weeks, then a break-neck tour around some smaller towns (Arras, Blerancourt, Strausborg, you know the drill), then a week or so down in Monaco (which normally I would avoid due to price, but someone very kind has offered to lend me lodging, so I'm going. ^^)

I need advice on where to go and what to do/see - I know a bunch of people here are either francophiles, FR geeks, live in and/or have been to France recently, or a combination of the above. So - help! Anyone have any links to online tour guides (of the French Revolution, Les Miserables, historical geekery, etc. variety)? Suggestions of places to go? Books I should look at? Does anyone have a list of the current locations of the major FR historical sites (Robespierre's house, etc.)? I'm generally interested in historical or fandomish sites, good places to eat, and other stuff to do.

Any advice at all, even the obvious, is extremely welcome! I got nothing, really. ^^

I've sort of left specific planning to the last minute, so, um, help! (Also, if you know any other places on LJ I could post this cry for help to where it wouldn't be obnoxious and would get some useful tips, I'd be grateful!)

(Less related: if you know anything about Switzerland, Germany (Berlin and Munich), Prague or Vienna, it would also be useful - I'm hoping to hit a city on my way out from Paris, and would like advice for those places as well)
[identity profile] hanriotfran.livejournal.com
Happy Birthday, Estellacat!:

How are you? I wish you could have a good birthday day, sourrounded by everyone who loves you...And eat a lot of cake, even if Marie-Antoinette had said it. Well, it seems she did not but Comte of Artois. Have a good day, anyway!

HanriotFran.
[identity profile] maelicia.livejournal.com
So I was googling some facts on Merlin de Thionville (i.e. his first names), when I came across this site and the pretty little picture in the middle of it:



...I cracked up.

I don't know why it's so amusing, if it's the Heroic Soldier Pose Epic Fail, or if it's the text saying (in French) "the statue of a proud soldier", and you can see how PROUD he REALLY wants to show he IS with his arms up there like that, but... yeah. To prove further my point:

Here is the very large photo of the statue, which I presume is in Thionville...? )

Profile

revolution_fr: (Default)
Welcome to 1789...

February 2018

S M T W T F S
    123
45678910
11 12 1314151617
18192021222324
25262728   

Syndicate

RSS Atom

Most Popular Tags

Style Credit

Expand Cut Tags

No cut tags
Page generated May. 31st, 2025 11:20 pm
Powered by Dreamwidth Studios