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Feb. 24th, 2010 07:57 pm
[identity profile] roza199.livejournal.com


It's my drawing of Robespierre & Saint-just ^^
[identity profile] acolnahuacatl.livejournal.com
Salut! I come bearing more art. Just two doodles today of Marat and Simonne-- WHY ARE THERE NO PICTURES OF HER?! D8 /baaaws forever

I imagine her as a pretty little thing c: )

And that's all from me /goes back under her rock until next time
[identity profile] acolnahuacatl.livejournal.com
Salut! First time poster, long time lurker (and Marat lover) ;D I come bearing a simple crack!comic I drew. It was inspired by [livejournal.com profile] kurotoshi's comic~

In which Marat scares the crap out of David... )

Enjoy~! o/
[identity profile] missweirdness.livejournal.com
Anyhow i was watching Iron Chef of America and one of the dishes was Lobster Thermidor..and that raised some eyebrows with me..

That is so weird why they would name a plate after that..and has anyone ever tried it?

I'm just curious xD I just sometimes stumble onto weird stuff, it scares me sometimes xP And they made the Lobster with chili and chocolate inside..which sounds altogether yummy...though i don't like sea food as much..
[identity profile] en-franglais.livejournal.com
Bonsoir tout le monde,

Last semester I checked out a book from my university library called Commemorating the Dead in Revolutionary France: Revolution and Remembrance, 1789-1799 by Joseph Clarke but accidentally returned it with a bulk of other books, not having read it. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone else had given it a glance over and if so, what you thought of it. Also, if you have any other similar books to recommend, I'd appreciate it, since I'm currently very interested in this topic.

I also recently read an interesting essay called "Gothic Thermidor:  The Bals des victimes, the Fantastic, and the Production of Historical Knowledge in Post-Terror France" by Ronald Schechter. In a word, no one can ascertain that 'bals des victimes' actually took place, but they grew to such mythic proportions that mention of them can be found in many memoirs and other writings from the 1790s to WWI.

I think we should really hold our own 'bal des victimes'; only, instead of commemorating the aristos, we'd be drinking to the Revolution;)
[identity profile] amie-de-rimbaud.livejournal.com
I read the novel L’Archange et le Procureur by Christophe Bigot over winter break and thought I’d briefly share a few of my thoughts. I was surprised to see such positive reviews online, since my own is rather lukewarm.

The story is narrated by Annette Duplessis, who is fulfilling the request of Horace (in a letter from Haiti) to impart his parents’ ‘true’ story. On the level of historical content, there weren’t any serious problems that I can remember. In terms of characterization, Bigot doesn’t glorify the Desmoulins couple; both have their flaws, related and qualified by Annette, the moral anchor of the novel. Saint Just is the most ‘evil’ presence; although he doesn’t appear much, his influence over Robespierre determines the fates of Camille, Lucile, and the Revolution. When she goes to plead for her daughter’s life, Annette glimpses a shirtless Saint Just in Robespierre’s bedroom.

When I first saw the title, I assumed that Lucile was the ‘archange,’ which made me wary of an idealized portrait. But it actually refers to a quotation from Marc Bloch that opens the novel (“L’histoire, à condition de renoncer elle-même à ces faux airs d’archange...”) and to Saint Just, who reminds Annette of an engraving in the Desmoulins home of the “archange de la liberté.” Lucile isn’t quite an angel, which is good; she ranges from coquettish to callous, but isn’t overall very interesting, her primary quality being extreme devotion to Camille.

The novel doesn’t take an especially new or different angle on the Desmoulins story. I’d recommend it if you have some time to spare, but it’s not a must-read for any Camille fan.

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Feb. 3rd, 2010 07:34 pm
[identity profile] trf-chan.livejournal.com
So.

1. The new layout: yay or nay? I just thought it was time to change the look of the comm. a bit.

2. TAGGING. With the help and guidance of the Lord the Supreme Being, I have finally tagged everything that's been posted...well, in the past two years, more or less. My eyes hurt, and I never want to have to type 'queries, robespierre' ever again. But the point is...it should now be somewhat easier to find what you're looking for/see if anyone has already asked a certain question/etc. I'm also up for suggestions if anyone thinks there's a better way to tag things; I've already gotten rid of weird double tags (camille desmoulins vs. desmoulins, for example. I went with the former, because more posts had already been tagged that way), misspelled tags, and added more for individual people. But yes, if anyone has a suggestion about how tagging could be made better, just let me know.

3. Related to the above, please tag your posts from now on (if you haven't already been doing so). No need to worry about whether or not you're tagging them with the absolute right set of words; if I see anything that I think needs to be added or taken away, I'll just quietly move in and fix it. :)

4. Should we bring back monthly discussion points? If so, what kind of topics would you like to see?
[identity profile] missweirdness.livejournal.com

Tell me what you think =) He is 90 percent complete but i really slaved over him. I hope my bf likes him. He better or else i'm MUNCHING!
xS

Plushie this way.. )

[identity profile] celine-carol.livejournal.com
Hola, long time lurker, first time posting...

I've recently been pretty obsessed with the French Revolution (particularly Robespierre), and I've been reading quite a bit on him and his contemporaries, and I've noticed that a lot of people have jumped to diagnose several other revolutionaries and analyze every possible psychological inclination they may have had.  (I've read a lot of theories on what made Marat blister up, and there seems to be something of a consensus that Mirabeau probably had every venereal disease known to mankind, and sexual preferences that would have been considered rather deviant at the time have been attributed to Camille...)

But I've searched the internet rather thoroughly, and I have yet to find any explanation for Robespierre's behavior that really amounts to anything other than "He was a jerk" or "He was weird" or "He was just fanatical".
But a lot of his traits:  Jerky walk, fist clinching, facial twitching/grimacing, head/shoulder rocking, light filtering problems, issues with voice modulation, nervous breakdowns, gastrointestinal issues, social awkwardness, trembling hands, issues with unexpected social calls, not liking to be touched, absentmindedness, odd food preferences, not liking to look people in the face, refusal to change clothing/habits, and his tendency toward obsession ---
Seem to point toward something that could be diagnosed.

I was just curious if anyone else thought that his behavior could have been symptomatic of a disorder (or syndrome)?
[identity profile] rohajavongareth.livejournal.com
I was wondering how widespread education was in the Revolutionary era and/or the decades immediately prior to that.

To be a little more precise, how many people were actually literate and how was that spread over the different social classes? How much farther than that did the average education go? For example, who would have been able to understand Latin? Would you need to attend a special institution to get that degree of education?

On a related note, how widespread was the knowledge of different political theories? Who would have been well versed in those?
[identity profile] lacommunarde.livejournal.com
I was browsing the internet today and found a Mac dashboard widget of the French Republican Calender and Clock, using the 4/128 conversion. As I don't have a Mac, I couldn't check if the download actually works and isn't buggy, but I figured I'd post it here if anyone should want the Republican calander time and date on their desktop: http://mac.wareseeker.com/Dashboard-Widgets/republican-calendar-1.4.zip/314644
[identity profile] missweirdness.livejournal.com
Since I am in a good holiday mood (i'm going home MONDAY WOOT!); I like to present my fanart to you =) And it has to do with Camille and Snowballs xD and Maxime's bloody nose =) Don't ask; It took me an hour; and yes that snowman is a republican snow-citoyen =/ and yes Saint-Just is almost covered up in snow thanks to Camille. Who knew Camille was a snowball champ? and yes Maxime is HIDING! I would also and Camille is scary, but he's happy. Lmao


as well as my other fanart =) which involves my two favorite things- Final Fantasy and the fr revolution =) Go me~ These particular fanarts are modeled on FF9 which is my favorite after 7 and 6(but i can't forget about ffx =( so sad! ) (which i'm still playing! GOTTA LEVEL UP and BEAT THE EVIL EMPIRE! Gotta save the world again ~~`woot xD with my band of misfits xD)
 
and yes Final Fantasy has a lot of conspiracies going on in most of the games but they are SO ADDICTING! along with xenosaga or xenogears (need to finish =/)  xD Maxime would like it xD well the Robespierrist(e)s would xD maybe it might make him even more paranoid or us;

and the main people are there along with Danton, David , Augustin and Lucile; and yes these were my real stats when i was playing but i leveled up and such xD so they are different and yes..there is a weird summary to it xD but anyhow, i'm a game player for realz xD and so yeah. and yes those fr people represent the different ff9 cast xD and they even have their own weapons <3 and you guess it..Maxime is my main character =Zidane with his sexy tail



and Joyeux Noël everyone!

xD enjoy it ~ Camille and Snowballs! OH MY! )
[identity profile] maelicia.livejournal.com
For those who can read French (or Italian, since the original was written in Italian), there's a new book coming out (according to Amazon) on January 14 2010: a biography (!) on Augustin Robespierre, written by Sergio Luzzatto (who also wrote Mémoire de la Terreur: vieux montagnards et jeunes républicains au XIXe siècle, which I recommend if you can read French).


Bonbon Robespierre, la Terreur à visage humain


(Hasty) translation of the summary:

For everybody, the name of "Robespierre" is obviously associated with Maximilien Robespierre, with the French Revolution, jacobinism and the Terror. But Robespierre is also the name of his young brother Augustin, "Bonbon" for his close ones, a figure who is rarely mentioned in history books, except when it comes to the date of 28 July 1794, when the two brothers were condemned to death.

Augustin, however, played a significant role during the Revolution. Also a man of law, militant jacobin, deputy of the Montagne, Bonbon was first of all a man with practical experience, who travelled through Revolutionary France from North to South.

No doubt, by facing Terror directly, he understood that revolutionary violence needed to cease in order to preserve the achievements of the Revolution.

But, if he was convinced that the Revolution needed to come to an end to be preserved, if he dared to express some opposition to Maximilien, he showed, in the end, an exemplary courage in asking to be associated to his brother in the supplice of the scaffold.




Sorry for the bad translation: it's 1am and I should be in bed. -_-
[identity profile] missweirdness.livejournal.com
Seriously; I think i just find the weirdest crap on the internet because it is me..but this is like so funny, that i was laughing my socks off( and i am wearing socks xD)

apparently i came across this website entry about Robespierre and it's about FAILING xD (when i was trying to make a french revolution layout for my blog, so it is my HOST's fault! =/)

You can read this here

eurofail.blogspot.com/2009/01/robespierre-suicide-fail.html

and then if you are highly ambitious like me, you can read the entire blog which has to do with more failing especially Napoleon (who i don't like or Louis Napoleon; DUMBASS! Getting France into a stupid WAR with Bismarck..*tisk**tisk* and i'm reading about the Paris Commune of 1871; not too far into it but interesting)

and a quick excerpt from it xD

"It was this blatant use of terror that achieved Robespierre extreme amounts of awesomeness. You may think it impossible, but it eventually proved to be too much awesomeness. "

and this one from the fail entry of Louis XVI, which had me cracking up xD

"It's regicide time, y'all."

here is the blog which is just pure awesome laughter fun time
eurofail.blogspot.com/

Don't ask me why, but i'm attracted to weird stuff on the internet *facepalm*
[identity profile] janewt.livejournal.com
Hi. I was wondering if anyone could recommend some decent English-language books (or heck, some well-done websites) that cover the period through the Thermidorean Reaction and the Directory? I'm not particularly interested in military history so much as the political and social; but at a guess, are books on Napoleon my best bet (for easily found in a non-academic library) to start with in hopes of finding a few chapters on this period?
[identity profile] sibylla-oo.livejournal.com
Harvard has just published a book called The Classical Tradition which includes a chapter by M.Sellers called "Classical Influences on the Law and Politics of the French Revolution". Masochists may download in from the SSRN. I will just add that, in my opinion, the abstract is a bunch of all sins a historian or anyone approaching history may commit. Moreover, these "sins" have very strong ideological implications. And I cannot but laugh at "transatlantic successes", I mean, Soviet propaganda wouldn't express it better XD 


The abstract provided by the author is extremely eloquent:
Abstract:     
The French Revolution was the last great political event to take its inspiration, iconography and institutions primarily from classical antiquity. French revolutionaries depended heavily on Roman and Greek history for ideas, and for the courage to apply them. But even if their understanding of history had been accurate (it seldom was) French politicians could never settle which ancient model to follow. Classical antiquity provides innumerable conflicting moral and political examples and the French came close to having tried them all, running through the whole of Roman history in fifteen years. Eighteenth-century Frenchmen postured as Romans, Athenians and Spartans, without ever achieving liberty against arbitrary power, or any consistent rule of law. The French Revolution’s ostentatious classicism, comprehensive experimentation, and obvious failure, discredited Roman and Greek antiquity as practical models for political reform. Future revolutions would need new models, including the experience of France itself, and the transatlantic successes of the United States of America. The French Revolution discredited classical antiquity, by following it too capriciously, too blindly and to the bitter end.

 Keywords: classical tradition, French Revolution, French republic, Roman republic, Sparta, Athens, neo-classicism, constitutionalism, liberty, rule of law, separation of powers, Rousseau, Constant, Robespierre
(see: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1437165)

[identity profile] elwen-rhiannon.livejournal.com
(A letter to half-sister Iwi Bennet, sent from Gdańsk, dated June 23rd-24th [19]28; translation to English, with shortenings marked, based on German to Polish translation provided by Antoni Weiland in third volume of Przybyszewska's letters, edited in Gdańsk in 1985)

I find this passage interesting and slightly relevant to my last entry, as well as Andrzej Wajda's idea of Robespierre and Saint-Just being, ehm, involved...

"Nowadays, when Freud's awful discovery serves as a toy for all kinds of idiots, it has become fashionable to explain everything that is not average as a sexual deviation (...) Revolutionaries are a true Klondike for those prying sexuologists making psychoanalysis a journalistic sensation, never having the slightest idea neither about revolution, nor about sociology. I had to read three treatises where these mediocrities were "psychoanalyzing" Robespierre. These bastards find it ambiguous when a man living only for one unearthly great ideal is forced to work 24 hours a day, coming home exhausted to the point of mental stupor - if such a man, having a strong conviction that he'll not live past the age of 35 years - does not set up home and does not have a cosy family life. Robespierre did what others in his situation used to: he resigned from all human and private relations, satisfying himself, when needed, with street girls. Not everyone has time, will and money for Casanova-like intrigues. And yes, this abstinence is the key to his life wnd work. Some people, who have read something from Michelet or Auluard, and only the passages mentioning his name - explain everything about Robespierre with his impotence (which is just a proof of their ignorance about the memoires of the period). Others, trying to be more noble and insightful - with homosexuality. They don't have to trouble themselves a lot here, with Robespierre's delicacy and elegance, his contralto voice, his almost tragic attachment to a likable blockhead Desmoulins and - basic thing - his attitude towards this wonderful man, St.-Just.
Yes, as you know, I do have a certain faible for homosexuals, if they are masculine and not feminine (I call this pure form of male homosexuality - a Platonic love, to rehabilitate this term). But I am sure - only pretenses here - that there were nothing of sexual kind between R[obespierre] and St.-Just. Yes, with Desmoulins - perhaps, especially from Desmoulins' side - he was a creature after Wilde's fashion - his attachment to a stronger friend from school, political leader later and opponent at the end - shows all signs of passion. But Saint-Just -?
An inconceivable relationship,inconceivable people."
[identity profile] missweirdness.livejournal.com
I know that the festival of the supreme being hastened Maxime's fall but certaintly he must of known this, right? Why didn't anyone stop him? I mean why did the CPS and convention or any of his allies ever stopped him? And how in the hell, did they let him stage IT?!! Did they not have any sense either? I'm seriously wondering that xD I mean..that's bugged me when i read all sorts of things on it but they never explained why. Unless..everyone was on crack..then i can totally understand.


>.> and expect some fanart from me in a few days time. Hahah, i have some other twisting ideas that should be fun to draw xD *cracks up*

and on a total unrelated note: The CPS's table. Their table. I swear to the supreme being that i keep thinking it's circle or oval rather than a rectangle or SQUARE; =/ (which still pisses me off that we were lied that a square and rectangle were DIFFERENT shapes, not a special type of rectangle or special type of square. whatever =/ IGNORE ME xD Ranting a lot xD)
[identity profile] elwen-rhiannon.livejournal.com
"Actually, they were almost the same age, with a difference of two years only, but never really realizing this fact. They both accepted Maxime as the older one with no doubt. Their mutual feelings were much stronger than normal friendship; it was simply love from both sides, in Camille's case with a huge amount of adoration. The condition for his own happiness was Maxime being close to him; an adult child tended to live in a constant exhausting rebelion against his own slave's dependence. Yet the feelings of the older one were probably even stronger, though they did not restrain his being. Maxime's love was 'at least strange', entirely protective, much more passionate than fraternal attachment, not even paternal, but typically maternal. A kind of love hard to bear, painful, monstrously deep, mindless to the point of absurd, full of nervous fear and insatiable tenderness - in the case of a man, of course, hidden extremly well. During the last months, he didn't have time - nor right - to ponder Camille, aching in his all body with a dumb pain he refused to even think about; for half a year Camille had been giving him one stroke after another, deliberately and knowingly hitting the weakest point each time. An incredibly strong attack of malaria, from which Maxime was pulling through with such a toil, was probably the result of this game. A love of this kind is ripped of any dignity so far that the more your darling one harasses you, the more loved he is."

Not mine, though I wouldn't mind it to be. This piece of fanfiction is almost a hundred years old, being a part of a novel by Stanisława Przybyszewska, Ostatnie noce ventôse'a / The Last Nights of Ventôse. Posted in this community because it's one of a very few places where the author's name is recognized, and I think she is worth it.

Translation by me.

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