French Revolution-related videos on Youtube

[momesdelacloche.livejournal.com]

Hi guys,

A few weeks ago I was very ill with swine flu or something, and while I was in bed, aside from re-read Treasure Island, I also learned how to use Windows Movie Maker.
Here are the results:

i) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8ZTkV4a8cg
ii) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdWYxESylDY

I was inspired by the great men and women who shaped France's history in the closing decades of the 18th century, and by the great artists Britney Spears and Lionel Richie who continue to shape our world today.
Please watch !!! (but please don't be offended for anything you may see or hear when clicking on the above links)

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

On second thoughts, maybe I am a troll. But I have no idea how to go about not being one.

[nirejseki.livejournal.com]

Well, you're pretty new here, I think, so you should probably lurk and make comments for a while to make sure your posts are appropriate for the community and see what normal posts are like. I did that for ages before posting, and I still don't post too often! ^_^ The reason you come across as troll-ish is that you post things that are out of tune with the rest of the community - not in opinion, we like debate and different opinions (or at least I do and I believe most people here do too), but rather in tone. Your posts are rushed together and confusing and not always good with grammar and punctuation, and you seem to be posting things at any point rather than commenting on other people's posts, which makes people unhappy.

It's a pretty scholarly community, despite the squeeing, so try to be respectful of other people's opinions, don't bait people intentionally (having your own opinions is fantastic, but if you don't need to fight with someone, don't! It's that simple. ^^), and respect the fact that very often, people here know a LOT. I've done a lot of research on this period, but I don't consider myself an expert compared to a lot of the people here, and (as you may have noticed) this is still one of the most divisive periods in history. So just be nice. ^^ That's all that's necessary not to be a troll.

Oh, and sign in when you reply, don't post on anon. ^^

[momesdelacloche.livejournal.com]

I have read the entries in this community for a very long time actually. For a year. I just never said anything until last week.. and it's strange because I feel like I know you all a little bit.

The reason that I don't say very much is that I have very many opinions myself. But I love to read people's entries who do have them and I do respect them. I just don't respect myself an awful lot.

Then ou must wonder why I said anything at all, but really it because I am very lonely.

Sob.

[nirejseki.livejournal.com]

...and this is why I sometimes wonder if you're a troll, because I have a very good reading of sarcasm online, and yet I have absolutely no idea if you're making fun of me and being sarcastic with the last comment or not.

If you have read the community for a year, then try to imitate other people's style of posting - it's a moderately formal community. Lots of squeeing, to be sure, but we're more likely to judge people based on presentation than other groups. Even the non-English speakers try very hard to respect the basic rules of the language. Your first post or two involved comments like RA NAO and random !!! comments, so people naturally had a negative reaction. Try to be clear and use your best English and people will respect you more, whatever your opinions are.

[misatheredpanda.livejournal.com]

nirejseki, I see your intention but I feel I must protest - while, sure, it's a good idea to get a sense of the other members of this community, the last thing I'd want to recommend is trying to 'imitate' them.. because, well, we're all different people, and that's what keeps things going. Perhaps there tends to be a formal tone but I don't think it's necessarily an innate part of this group; rather I think it's because that's the individual style of some people here, perhaps the more vocal members. And there's nothing wrong with that, naturally; but that doesn't make it the rule. And as far as subject matter goes, although there are a lot of people here with similar opinions, this is meant to be a general community for the French Revolution, and as long as no one here is personally attacked disagreement is bound to happen, and it ought to. Liberty of the press, right?

Also I don't think it's right to say silliness and sarcasm are out of place here - just look at our info page! And for the record, I've had no trouble grasping the meaning of what momesdelacloche says, sarcastic or not - I've been rather ruffled by a couple of comments too but I still wouldn't want to discourage her from participating, because I get the impression she's a very clever person with a serious interest in the Revolution and, well, that's what we're here for, isn't it?

nirejseki, honest I'm not just trying to scold you because I see only well-meaning in what you said, this has just been more of a general statement. Alas, I just want us all to be friends and fall into each others' fraternal embraces. D:

[nirejseki.livejournal.com]

Don't get me wrong, I don't want her to imitate us (I misused the word - I meant more what you meant along the lines of "get the sense of the other members") or give up her opinions. I get the feeling that most people have misunderstood my intention. I was not attempting to shut her up or force her to follow the way we normally do things - I mean, I like a good debate as much as the next person, if not more! - but I was very much confused by a number of her comments. Perhaps it's just my sarcasm meter not working, but I honestly couldn't tell if her recommendations were sincerely meant or not, and I wasn't sure if anyone else did either. Clarity would improve my enjoyment of her posts and then we would be able to talk more and exchange ideas better.

My request was primarily to behave a bit more clearly - keep in mind, I did not post this particular response off the top of my head, but rather in response to her question of "how do I not be/sound like a troll". Most of what I pointed out was general internet tips, which I only barely tailored for this community (thus the references to "look at other people", etc; it's more because I admire how our community generally follows the rules of netiquette rather than an actual request for her to fall in line or some sort of thing like that)

Please don't assume that I want her to conform or any such thing - or that I would think you were "scolding" me when you simply didn't get my meaning. (Why are you adding a disclaimer? D : I don't flame people on this community and I'm not scary, why would you think I would jump up and bite your head off..? Er. No pun intended. Still, ;_; )

I would prefer it if she capitalized her sentences and made her meaning a bit clearer by separating her sentences more, simply because as it is I find it difficult to carry on a conversion when I'm constantly confused. That's the reason I didn't respond to her first few posts, and as I would like to engage her further in the future, I suggested improvements that would make her more accessible to me. I honestly thought she was either making a joke with the Marie Antoinette/Britney Spears video or trying to get reactions out of people for fun; which is why I asked her if she was trolling rather than just accusing her. I have no problem with silliness (I draw and post French Revolution chibi comics, who am I to complain?), though I do think her original style of posting was very strange especially compared to the more formal style (particularly of grammar) that she uses on her own journal, and furthermore that people took it in a negative light, and as a result wanted to advise her on behavior that would prevent negative reactions in the future.

*shrug* I'm not good at being particularly clear myself; that's probably part of the problem. A troll invaded one of my other communities recently, doing something moderately similar, and so I might be a bit sensitive.