[identity profile] citoyenneclark.livejournal.com
 I need a poem for my English class, and was hoping to do one either about, or written during the French Rev. And, go figure, now I can't remember any besides that poem by Wordsworth, which I don't really want to do. Any suggestions?

Thanks
[identity profile] pedrolino.livejournal.com
Hey! I haven't posted here in quite a while...

I was wondering, however, if anyone knows of any print or online versions of Lucile Desmoulins' diary? I've found about a bazillion references to it, but haven't been able to find a version of the diary itself anywhere. I might just be looking in the wrong places, however. Has anyone ever managed to find it?

Thanks!
[identity profile] marieclaire08.livejournal.com
Thanks to all here who helped me pin down the version of the Rights of Man and Citizen. Sure enough, it's translated into English in its entirety in [Poll #1271155]
[identity profile] almostlifesized.livejournal.com

Hello, I'm Johanne. Pardon this, it's probably not good form to demand something in a first post!

Ehem. My History book, as anyone within screaming distance is aware, is crap. This bothers me, especially as my History teacher is an ignorant pig who deals very poorly with the slightest bit of critique, even when directed towards the copious mistakes in the book and not him. Pointing out to the class that it would be awfully difficult for one man (three guesses who) to be responsible for the entire Terror got me a proper scolding and probably a less-than-wonderful grade.

So, could any of you reccomend me some literature that deals with the lesser known aspects of the revolution, or that clears up some of the common misconceptions? Serious and academic, (semi-)serious and fun, Horrible Histories-style or a really brilliant biography or a documentary, it will all do as long as it will help me a) learn, obviously and b) smack my teacher in the face with my awesome skills.

I'd really appreciate it! :D
 

[identity profile] pevampire.livejournal.com

A lot of the websites about Saint-Just highly recommends Eugene Curtis's biography of Saint-Just.
But it was published in 1935~! Is it possible to get a copy today? I mean, like 80 years have passed
I suppose university libraries might have one but our high school library certainly doesn't (all it has 
is stupid prep books) 

[identity profile] take-a-sadsong.livejournal.com

Hi there! I'm a homeschooled geeky highschooler, and I've always been interested in the French Revolution since I was much younger. I've read only a couple of children's books about the time, but those two have been some of my favorites (I'm re-reading one of them right now), and the whole culture just seems to fascinate me. However, I have absolutely no idea why there was a Revolution other than the commoners were angry with the royals and all that bit. All my textbooks seem to sort of skim the F. Rev., and focus in much more on The American one instead (which sort of makes sense, since I use American texts. :P).

Basically, I'm a newbie who wants to really get into the whole era, but I have no idea where to start. I know there's probably been a million posts on here of the sort (I apoligize, I couldn't find one!), but I really need book recommendations. :) What is a good starting book(s) for the overall Revolution and the Reign of Terror, that isn't too textbooky and boring? Don't get me wrong, I love dates of events and stuff, but sometimes it gets mind-numbing when the emotion of the times gets cut. If there's a huge book list somewhere for the Revolution, that'd be awesome too. The more the merrier. :)

Also, I have to ask: Was Robbespierre as bad as they all say he was? ;)

thanks so much! :D

[identity profile] livviebway.livejournal.com
I tried to go back and edit my last post and LJ flipped out on me, so I'm sorry about posting again on the same topic.

Success with Ruth Scurr!   Thanks, everyone!  She includes a small snippit of Robespierre's letter to Camille:

"May I remind Monsieur Camille Desmoulins that neither the beautiful eyes nor the beautiful attributes of charming Lucile are reasons for not announcing my work on the National Guard...There is not at this time anything more urgent or important than the organization of the National Guard."

I am still trying to find the whole letter though, but I now have the citation!

Robespierre (1910-67), vol. 3a, p. 100.

Does anyone happen to have a complete works of Robespierre lying around? ;-)
[identity profile] misatheredpanda.livejournal.com
Hello! How are all of you? I hope you're all well.

So... have any ideas for celebrating 14 July?
[identity profile] nirejseki.livejournal.com
I'm doing a reenactment of some scenes from the French Revolution with my friends in a few weeks, and I was wondering - does anyone have an English translation of Camille Desmoulins' Aux Armes speech on July 12? The "jump on a table, pull out a pistol or two, and get everyone to wear green" speech; I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. ^^

Also, I'm looking for Saint-Just's "Report on the Dantonists" (again, in English - alas, I speak no French).

Anything else you can get me in English, I'd be grateful. Preferably by Robespierre, Desmoulins, Danton, Saint-Just, Marat, etc. All is welcome; presume we know nothing. ^_^

We have a pretty willing group, so if there's anything you'd like to see people in costume performing in front of a camera in Central Park or wherever it ends up being - please, either give me a link or email me at riderriddle@yahoo.com

(Also, if anyone knows a lot about costumes of specific people and can link me to something that has really good images, that would be very helpful! It's the little details, like "What did stockings look like" and "What type of shoes?" and "What do the sleeves look like again?" that really get you...and if you can answer any of those questions, that helps. ^^)

Thanks a lot!
[identity profile] jesta-ariadne.livejournal.com
...a book called "Love is Revolution - The Story of Camille Desmoulins"?? It does sound rather, uh, dramatic..! I'm intrigued.


But honestly, half the reason I'm posting is because of the summary posted here which runs as follows:
. . . Nice DW with a little rubbing and chipping to edges/spine, a few small tears, very slight loss. B&W illustrations. Biography of Camille Desmoulins, heroine of the French Revolution.

Teeheee.
[identity profile] fatimahcrossin.livejournal.com

Salut et Fraternité, Citoyennes et Citoyens !

I have been watching this community for a while and now I have decided to introduce myself and ask you a question.
I am greatly interested in French Revolution, with whom I have a strange relationship of love and hate - but I think this will be amusing to discuss another time.
Well, I am strangely, madly, deeply, lustfully, wildly, passionately in love with Saint-Just - yes - but in my mother language, Italian, there is rather only a few stuff upon him. So until now I only have had the chance to read Camus and Malraux essays which are available in my country.
I like these essays very, very much - I believe both the two existentialists reach a non-banal perspective of the character (even though they are men and miss the intuition of something only a woman can understand...), but I'd like to read more on my love.

I have read almost everything I have found on the Internet about him and now I would buy some foreign text more focused on his biography, since Camus and Malraux's are only short chapters drawn from more complex books and provide rather a general perspective on Antoine as a man and about his role in history of that age than pure biographical information.
I have seen there is an amount of biographies, but I have still not decided what to choose.
I can read English, French and German, and since I have a strong intellectual complexion due to my marxist education despite my reviewing it under a feminist, pagan, anarchist point of view, I'd like better a rigorous scientific account rather than a fiction-oriented one: in spite of his myth, Antoine is a man, first of all - and I am in love with him just because of this.
I have noticed Vinot's biography and I feel attracted to it but I am not absolutely sure - would you advice me to buy it ? And/or other texts ?
Just tell me whatever you believe to be useful.

Ok, I think this is enough for my first time here. Thank you in advance for your answers and comments - every suggestion is here absolutely welcome !

Au revoir,



F.

[identity profile] sunliner.livejournal.com
Hey guys!

My interest in history waned for a while, but I'm all of a sudden into it again, and as summer is coming I'm looking for some stuff to read. Last night I started making a "to read" list and, to my dismay, could only come up with four things I actually wanted to get through. Four! Anyway, I'd be really appreciative if you all could give some recommendations on good books about the French Revolution. Fiction is preferable, but I'm not entirely opposed to nonfiction.

I've read Vive La Revolution on that front, which I thought was delightful. Fictionally speaking, I read A Place of Greater Safety last summer, but thought it got sort of tedious after a while—I liked reading about the personal lives of the revolutionaries more than anything else, regardless of the accuracy ('cause I wasn't really in it for that). I mean... I can take politics, and a decent amount of it is interesting, but when it makes up the bulk of the book it becomes dry and simply isn't enough to keep me entertained. I've also read A Tale of Two Cities which is one of my favorite books but so horribly inaccurate it hurts.

So anyway, I thought you'd all be good to ask. Anything to offer?
[identity profile] molly-is-cosmic.livejournal.com
Hello all :D

I'm doing my coursework on the French Revolution--- the sanscullotte's role in the Terror, to be precise--- and I'm actually enjoying it an obscene amount. Really, my teacher yesterday was like 'this isn't your thesis, it's not your baby'  which reveals the extent to which I like reading Robespierre. 

But, anyway, can anyone lead me to some of Marat's work from L'Ami du Peuple etc. (or anything from 1792-4?). The only one I can seem to find is on marxists.org (surprise, surprise) and I need to analyse his language....Anything particularly angry or radical-ish is good. 

Thanks :)
[identity profile] livviebway.livejournal.com
Does anyone know where I could find a full text of the letter Robespierre wrote to Danton after Gabrielle's death? I'd prefer it in French, but English works too.

Thanks!
[identity profile] ponder-irl.livejournal.com
Hi, I'd just like to introduce myself briefly: I'm an undergrad student from Ireland, in my final year of a B.A. in English and History.  I'm writing my final year dissertation (a short thesis, about 12,000 words) on the influence by J.J. Rousseau on Robespierre's life and career.  I'd just like to say thanks for translating Charlotte Robespierre's memoirs, which I've just found after searching for an English copy for a about 6 months! So thanks to whoever did that...

Now that I'm here, I have a question.  Does anyone know if it's possible to find an English translation of Robespierre's Ouevres Complete, or at least part of it?  I've been looking for that for ages too, and had pretty much given up, but finding Charlotte's memoirs has given me renewed hope.  Any information or advice would be hugely appreciated.  I've been finding it extremely hard to get primary sources about the French revolution that have been translated into English, and I'm afraid my project will suffer as a result.

Thanks again!
[identity profile] toi-marguerite.livejournal.com
Hey all!

I'm writing a NaNoWriMo novel that takes place from approximately 1788- 1799 and being the crazed fangirl that I am, I'm including as many Jacobins as I can get away with. I think I've got a good handle on Robespierre, since he's the main object of my obsession, but I do confess that I have nooooooooo idea at all how to characterize Saint- Just and Desmoulins. Aside from physical descriptions, I'm not quite sure what to do personality- wise to keep them as close to life as possible.

I would look at other historical fiction books as a guide, but then we get blood-thirsty-psycopathic-murderer!Saint- Just and dumb-as-a-rock!Desmoulins and I would rather avoid those since I've figured out that they're pretty much complete fabrications.

Thank you so much to anyone who can shed some light on the subject!
[identity profile] morgan-wang.livejournal.com

Since Citoyenne elyse24601 has started a topic on the worst fictional representations, I thought I'd start a slightly more postive thread about the best fictional representations. So who do you think has written the best peice of french rev. fiction?

a book...

Jul. 27th, 2007 05:27 pm
[identity profile] disownmereturns.livejournal.com

Hello...

Perhaps you guys might have heard of a book by Deborah Cadbury? It's entitled The Lost King of France and it talk about the experiences of the Royal Family during the height of the French Rev...

I think Louis XVI and Louis XVII are hot...

...sizzling...x3 

[identity profile] lucilla-1789.livejournal.com
Hello!

Can anyone recommend a good and informative book about Marat? Biography, or good piece of fiction? Informative webcites?

Usually my main interest is Saint-Just (I sort of fell in love while reading some nasty stuff about him in Aubry's old book) but Marat interests me too, because he "was around" from the beginning.  Are there any scans from his L'Ami du Peuple paper to be found online? Also, if someone here has written any fictional stuff about him, I'm more than happy to read it.

Because this is my first entry here, I have to introduce myself to be polite:
I'm finnish, but moving soon to study historical and cultural studies in UK. I've studied design and cultural history for some years and publiched a (small) book about visual culture during the Revolution (symbols, art, fashion etc.) I've loved French Revolution as far back as I can remember. Apologies for my vampiric userpic. I'm an amateur horror writer.
[identity profile] spurnedambition.livejournal.com
Okay, so I was at the Barnes and Noble at the mall today and saw this on display. It's called Liberty: The Lives and Times of Six Women in Revolutionary France by Lucy Moore.

So has anyone read it or is reading it, and is it good?
I don't think it seems too biased, as she does seem to cover women revolutionaries, looking at the contents, and surprisingly, doesn't give a spotlight to Marie-Antoinette.

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